Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Usky holding up undisputed

 

Wrong. Why on Earth would the Saudis pay Joshua 90 million but deny Fury 100 million? It's because Joshua is a better investment due to his market value proven by how his fights have constantly and significantly been outselling that of Fury's.

If what you say were the case, they wouldn't care one bit how much Fury asks, whether it's 100 million or 150 million. But they clearly do care - and you only care about costs like that if it's seen as an investment (which always has direct expectations in terms of ROI) rather than the appearance fee of birthday party acts (which have no ROI expectations as they are simply seen "nice things/services cost money").

 

Hasn't Fury repeatedly said he didn't care for money?

Fury fans clearly have a problem understanding that it's not about the amount per se. It's about not being a pushover. If he agrees this insulting 40 or 30 per cent, it sends the wrong message. It already gives Fury the upper hand psychologically. Usyk's stance is clear: "I was happy with the Saudi deal and venue. I signed and was ready to go. You priced yourself out, and as a result, you drag me away from that deal and you put me in a disadvantage by making me fight in your backyard. You know what? Fine. I'll fight for less. I'll fight in your backyard. But make no mistake - I'm not beneath you so whatever we make there, I want half and that's that."

How more straightforward could it be? It's hilarious how difficult it is seemingly for the followers of the Fury cult to comprehend this simple concept.

Also, it's especially hilarious how you lot parrot about Usyk's "greed", lol. In 2019, Fury wanted to have 60/40 against Joshua - without any belts, while Joshua being the hugely bigger draw I didn't hear any complaints from you about Fury being greedy. But now Usyk is greedy because he doesn't want to be insulted by anything less than 50 per cent while defending three belts as the reigning unified HW champion of the world, fighting in the backyard of his opponent

Fury and his fans redefine the terms 'hypocrisy' and 'double standards'.

 

Usyk is happy with the Saudi deal. Fine. Fury is not - why he should be - just because Usyk is? Both are a bit hypocritical.

 

Usyk could have said "let's fight in neutral territory" or "let's fight in the US, that's the next best thing after Saudi if you want money". Why should it be his concern that Fury has criminal associations and hence banned from entering the States? Why should he agree to not fight in neutral territory?

Instead, Usyk agreed to fight in his opponent's backyard as the unified HW champion of the world after said opponent ****ed up his Saudi deal. I repeat: he holds three belts AND is forced to fight in a place where the odds are heavily stacked against him. It's madness how Fury fans argue that after all this Usyk not wanting to get anything less than 50% is greed. Absolute insanity. Reading Fury fans argue this really gives an insight about how flat Earth believers and other similar groups could gain popularity. Total mindf**k, this backward logic of them.

 

Imagine Usyk insisting on a fight in US - that would clearly be a duck. It's even idiotic to assume he would, the guy isn't that stupid. And all I am saying is that both claim they're not for the money, but obviously are, it's just the Usyk fanbase that painfully twists the fact just to make it look it isn't so. By saying all that, I'm not in any way anti-Usyk or so.

 

Give Usyk the 50/50 split he,deserves it as he’s played his part in making the Undisputed fight a reality as for PPV numbers against previous opponents they are irrelevant when it comes to this Undisputed fight,this fight for all intents and purposes should break all Heavyweight PPV records and deservedly so. Is Joshua still the big draw after 3 losses now and his antics after the last Usyk defeat ? Who knows but Joshua v Wilder would still be massive and to a lesser extent Joshua v Fury. Mark my words if Joshua’s marketability has took a dive Hearn will make both the Wilder and Fury fights in a heartbeat .

 

Fury Usyk is happening but it's getting delayed

First Usyk will get put in his place because 50:50 ain't happening.

Then it's off to the front line for Usyk for the next few months whilst Fury sips his pina colladas and boxing fans cry.

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Unless both parties agree there will be no undisputed World Heavyweight title bout, so each are equals, 50/50 split of the money, i am sure post fight that neither fighter will be having to apply for social security handouts.

 

You didn't understand what I meant and inadvertently proved my point in the process.

You said why should Fury be satisfied with the Saudi deal, regardless of what Usyk has or hasn't worked out on his side. Referring to this, I wrote, theoretically: why should Usyk care about Fury's inability to enter the US? In other words, I replied to your assumption that a fighter is only looking at his side and **** the other attitude with a scenario from the other fighter's perspective - to which you said it would be a duck.

Thank you, that's what non-Fury fans have been saying all along. Fury not accepting the Saudi deal (which is the most money he could get out of this fight, and it's not even close) is basically ducking Usyk. If it weren't then the Wembley fight would have already been agreed upon. Fury priced himself out in Saudi and now trying to get a bigger percentage of a much, much smaller pot. He wasn't happy with 80 million from the Saudis and now he is trying to get 60 per cent of a 40-50 million purse. He knew this would happen, he knew Usyk wouldn't accept anything less than 50. He might be a hypocrite but he still has a working memory. He knows how he demanded 60 per cent over Joshua in 2019 when he had no belts and Joshua was the bigger draw. And now, he demands Usyk accepts 40 per cent (or even less) as a unified champion, fighting in his opponent's backyard?

Fury is many things but stupid is not one of them. That was his plan all along: pricing himself out in Saudi then not giving Usyk a fair 50/50 split (despite what he demanded in 2019 against Joshua). He knew Usyk wouldn't accept - no self-respecting champion would accept such a thing under these circumstances, in this context. Hence Fury and his cult followers could say Usyk is the greedy/ducking one. And that's exactly what is happening. Fury is a very shrewd guy, there's not a single thing he says or does without thinking about the bigger picture. He is playing you like a fiddle, guys, absolutely playing you and laughing his ass off while doing so.

 

They won't agree and the fight will go to Saudi at the end of the year or summer

But the Saudi's payout will still workout more than 60:40 in favour for Fury despite being separate deals.

So how can Usyk cry? If Usyk was desperate for the fight he'd take it at Wembley for the 40 cut but he won't...delays help Fury so he doesn't care.

 

As a huge Fury fan I've had enough. Usyk has ducked no man.

I'm done with Fury unless this fight gets made next.

 

Got you in a tight corner, Usyk-blinded, I know your blabbering on this topic.

Usyk fanbase: try something with a minimal content of intelligence, not "Fury rejected the bigger Saudi money to get less at Wembley" and try thinking why Usyk, after getting 20% against AJ in the first fight and 40% against Chisora, then said he'll fight Fury for no money is now stuck to 50:50 - ain't that a duck?

You're just like lordlosh intellectually - the typical pro-Usyk *d**t, we know eachother's POV, let's not try to convince the contrary, I am critical to both fighters and I sympathize Usyk (I just do not see him as God).

 

Isn't the deadline today?