Fury and Wilder both pass VADA

Can I not just be a regular Nazi? Orthography Nazi doesn't sound nearly as exciting

 

since you take pride in correcting little typos you can not be that exciting...

 

It wasn't the typo I was mocking dude. I was amused at you accusing people of behaving like 7 year old's while you are the one communicating like a 7 year old

 

Fury didn’t just fail a ped test he conned the world, he took a retrospective ban for recreational drugs rather than a ban for his failed ped test, he was clever about it aswell he knew the limited funds that ukad had and knew that a lengthy court battle would sap their merge funding and so he convinced them that he would contest his ban and whatever the outcome the case would drain their funds to levels they could not afford, so he concocted a plan that would see him serve a ban and avoid them falling into a financial crisis as the result of a court case he could easily afford, and he made it work for him like no one could have expected, he was banned for cocaine use and created a sympathy for him, and his reasons for his original failing a ped test are just outrageous when you break it down.
He failed a ped test (that would have him doping during the Wlad camp and for the fight) and his reason was that he ate uncastrated wild boar, can you imagine him and Hughie hunting wild boar? I know people say he’s light footed but he’s not that good him and Hughie would be the most conspicuous hunters anywhere in the world lol, ok I know it wasn’t said that they took the boar down.
But what was said was that it was the fact it was uncastrated wild boar, and I can’t see a situation where you could possibly encounter a castrated wild boar? or a ritual for the eating of wild boar that includes the removal of the bollocks? and then forgetting the importance of removing the bollocks?I mean are we supposed to believe that there’s people who just trap boar and clip their bollocks off and then release them? Then apply that to any animal in the world is there ever a reason to remove the bollocks of a wild animal and then release it? It’s only a theory but it makes more sense than the actual way things panned out, iam not saying fury is a ped cheat, I don’t have to his failed test did that what iam saying is how can you not question the way things panned out? Imagine a castrated wild boar, who castrated it and why lol

 

Dude this is a boxing forum, i type stuff while i am taking a dump.

 

I still think Wilder putting on that much lean muscle for a guy who 'struggles to keep weight on' is extremely suspect.
Fury just didn't diet as much and his weight is consistent with his chub history.

The Fury(Tyson&Hughie) PED case, if you followed it and read the final documentation, is one of the most suspect cases from the institutional end you're likely to see. It also became a legal war where the testing agency then had to try to save face, meaning they had an agenda. The fact the case was settled so that Fury could fight again is similar to out of court settlements people take to avoid losing years in court and doesn't necessarily prove guilt. It's impossible to really know what went on there, it's possible the Fury camp was PEDing, but I side with them on this issue due to the very fishy behaviour from the agency and the political agendas at the time.

It's a mistake to believe that government/corporate agencies are good, competent, honest systems full of non political and non biased bureaucrats not doing whatever they can to protect/further careers, just because they are 'authorities' and have a fluffy manifesto.

 

I agree, and am not accusing either guy. I believe them both to be clean until proven otherwise. Just asking a statement about the effectiveness of modern day testing.

 

That is incredible information. I have not heard it before. Is the implication that they deliberately created false positives? Or simply inaccurate testing?

 

Cycling and Track and Field have some of the most stringent drug testing on Earth, yet all of the top athletes in these sports are juiced to the gill, yet I’m supposed to believe that Boxing has competent drug testing?

 

Which proves that VADA is either incompetent or corrupt or both.

These two were as dirty as sin for that fight.

 

When someone gains ten pounds of lean muscle in a couple of months then yes you can assume that just fine, and ninety nine percent of the time you'd be bang on the money.

I'm not going to give anyone in boxing the benefit of the doubt, or in competitive sports period. And I frankly no longer care what the test results say. The whole thing is a massive scam.

 

The cocaine story seemed to overshadow this here. Thanks, I've just read a few columns from 2016 based on your post. Or maybe I allowed the Canelo tainted meat story to become the focus on Saul being the poster boy for roided meat. Seems like has two brethrens to add Fury I & II.

 

I think you're creating a false dichotomy though? It's possible for their to be flaws in the actions of the bureaucracy administering the testing process and for Hughie and Tyson to have tested positive for nandrolone. In fact, given the outcome that's the explanation that best explains what happened.

Good / devious lawyers get guilty people off charges everyday by exploiting failures in the system.

 

If you add to that the frequent examples of biased refereeing, disgraceful scoring, horrendous matchmaking, oddities around ring size or other conditions etc. then it's a wonder why anyone still follows the sport.

In fact, it's probably a tribute to just how good boxing can be on those occasions when you don't feel you're watching a pre-determined outcome...

 

No way at 35 years old and that many camps and training behind you and all that stuff, you suddenly gain close to 20 pounds and all that to be lean muscle. No f***** way.
Obviously Wilder was on heavy, heavy roids.
Fury as well, cause he obviously gain muscle, and lose fat at the same time, and the only way to achieve that is by steroids.