Fury does not really want to fight Wilder again

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Oct 14, 2019.


  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Dude you literally have the word UK in your user name and you're accusing someone of being biased. :lol:

    I don't care if you have the last word. By all means continue repeating yourself. I don't give a ****.

    Don't see how I'm a hypocrite lol you're talking out of your ass. I only got rude when you did bud. I straight up told you I wasn't interested in rehashing this 3x and you insisted and now you're crying victim.
     
  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    What is wrong with Americans ffs?
    99% of the world see a fight one way, 1% fringe lunatics and fanboys see the fight the other so apparently it's not a robbery. We have seen this kovalev vs ward, clenelo vs ggg, fury vs wilder 1.
    Your favourite line is ' it could have gone either way' when the only people who think that's are a tiny minority of complete lunatics.

    Ffs im happy germans have a higher i.q than americans, otherwise we would be spammed with millions of otkke was the goat thread, because you know his undefeated and there is no controversy because them close fights could have gone either way.
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    No one is getting defense I'm just speaking my mind.

    You cannot account for everyone. Lots of Americans wanted to see the 3rd fight. Like I said, I get around and have been on plenty of other sites and talked to people in person.

    You're kind of proving my point dismissing my perspective and insisting your experience is the only valid one in regards to who wanted to see it and who didn't.

    I never said AJ vs Fury wasn't more anticipated. I actually wanted to see that too, but I respected Wilder's right to a rematch. The funny thing is people should have gotten mad at fury and arum for making promises they couldn't keep and Hearn for not doing his homework and negotiating with a guy tied up in a rematch clause. The whole thing was stupid, irresponsible, and unprofessional but as usual everyone wanted to get mad at wilder like he was some diabolical movie villain who planned the whole thing. Fury is never to blame for anything and can do nothing wrong, wilder bad, blah blah.

    And if you don't think covid and the court delays affected the ticket sales I honestly don't even know what to say. That is baffling and defies common sense.
     
  4. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Lots of Americans wanted to see the third fight?hahaha really ? Why?
    I only wanted to see the third fight so i could watch wilder get hospitalised and i got what i asked for.
    Why in gods name did you guys want to see it?
     
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  5. BubblesUK

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    As if that actually matters?

    I'm not a Fury fan.

    I have no dog in this particular argument - just calling it as I see it and as I reason it.

    And yet you keep on repeating yourself and nauseam?

    That's why I suggested some introspection - because I'm sorry to say, you are being really hypocritical in this thread.

    Nope - you might not see it (as with the hypocrisy) but you've been mighty condescending to plenty of people in this thread whilst doing exactly the same things you've accused them of.

    Case in point:

    You see, I'm absolutely fine with rehashing it different ways - even if you're not interested in engaging with it, perhaps someone else would be...

    That's how forums work, when you're done YOU back out.
    If other people want to keep discussing, that's up to them.
    When only one person (or less) is left, the thread drops down the list and that's that.

    Not at all, you're the one whining like a baby that you didn't want to discuss this (whilst continuing to reply) - I simply pointed out your hypocrisy and the irony of suggesting that others were being rude and pushing dogmatic positions.

    By all means, carry on being a hypocrite, I don't mind... Just don't tell me I can't criticise it.
     
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  6. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury respected Wilder and his power long before they fought,however Fury after losing over 10 stone went and fought him the first time and was robbed on the cards,then a fully fit Fury destroyed Wilder in the second fight,and then for the trilogy fight an unmotivated Fury without having a full training camp and other problems outside the ring knocked Wilder out. As for the court case which held Fury back from fighting anybody else as well as losing out on the Joshua fight,the contract had run out but Wilders team pressed the case that it was due to COVID restrictions and they ruled in his favour .
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Dude, this is exactly what you've been doing for pages and pages.

    You never say "I think" or preface with maybes or perhapses, you state your view as if it were cast iron fact - which is fine up to a point, but to then slam this guy for doing much the same is a bit.... What's that word beginning with "H" again?

    (And no, I'm not saying this to pick on you, but if you start to see it you might find it easier to have calmer and more polite exchanges in future).
     
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  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    oh darn, then thats my bad, well done, i will shut up!
     
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  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who can blame Fury? He almost got knocked out in the last fight...some people believe he really DID get knocked out.

    I'll forever wonder about that 12th round kd in the second fight, as well. I can think of quite a few refs who would have been right to stop it...Fury was unconscious.
     
  10. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Fury is not a glassed jawed like, just because his unconscious doesn't mean his finished, his got that traveller fight on spirit
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, yes, Wilder fans may have wanted a trilogy, in the obvious hope that he could beat Fury. But after the rematch, a 3rd fight simply wasn’t warranted. I’m not saying that literally nobody wanted it, I’m just saying that there was no general demand or excitement to see it. I don’t even know why you’re arguing this.

    Wilder was broken down in the rematch. It wasn’t a close fight. He was then ridiculed due to the costume excuse.

    The fight that the MAJORITY of the boxing world wanted to see, was a huge unification between Fury and AJ.

    That was the consensus on this forum, every other forum and all across social media.

    Some people may have wanted a Fury-Wilder trilogy, but most wanted a Fury-Joshua fight.

    That cannot be disputed.

    Regarding ticket sales, again COVID had nothing to do with the PPV target not being met.

    You must have seen the rumours all around the internet, where there were numerous reports of the fight being delayed due to a lack of interest.
     
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  12. Col Mortimer

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    A bitter pill can be hard to swallow, if at all.

    I had it 8 Rnds for Fury in fight 1
     
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  13. Murderers' Row

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    You wanted to watch Wilder get hospitalised? Stay classy lad.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Glass City Cobra,

    Just a few points to note based from the above:

    Have you considered that the reason why Wilder looked so poor in the rematch, is because Fury made him look that way?

    Tyson wasn’t better in the 3rd fight than what he was in the rematch.

    In the rematch, he was fired up and looking for vindication. He had a point to prove. He was extremely motivated.

    In the third fight he didn’t possess the same level of enthusiasm. Everyone knows this. He had no real motivation. He just went through the motions because he was contractually obligated to take the fight. Check out some of his interviews.
     
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  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Yes, part of it was fury making him look bad. Part of it was wilder not being at 100% for whatever reason. It's obvious he wasn't all there and looked gassed and weak very early on.

    How was fury worse in the 3rd fight? This is one of the most annoying things about discussions about fury because people can just throw out arbitrary numbers and percentages claiming he wasn't at his best whenever he looks bad. It's tiresome.

    I find it funny how fury's words are automatically taken at face value and Wilder's aren't. Fury contradicts himself all the time. He is a known drug and alcohol abuser and lies whenever he feels like it. Has wilder said crazy things? Yes, bad so has fury both are head cases but people show their true colors when they cherry pick what's to believe. That's all I'm saying.

    Even Lennox Lewis and Wladmir have noted how inconsistent and all over the place fury in is in his behavior and words.