Fury failed to clinch and that's why he lost to Usyk

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Fury failed to clinch and that's why he lost to Usyk

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Fury, for the first time in his career, failed to dominate in the clinch.
    He failed to use his weight and reach to wear down Usyk.
    I had a good look at how Usyk brilliantly denied every clinch attempt.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury successfully clinched a number of times. Though it should be pointed out that Fury didn't attempt to clinch when he was hurt and reeling. I would have to go back and review to see when Usyk shook off clinch attempts. Are there are any specific examples that you could pinpoint?
     
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  3. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk was prepared for Furys clinching tactics, he would find a way to free himself up to get his own offense off
     
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  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Voted no and not because the statement is not right. Usyk was clearly ready to deflect Fury's attempts. He’s always been ready to do that to bigger guys. I remember how I told people to watch what Usyk did to Fa, Modugno or Joshua when they tried to clinch him. The answer was the usual superficial Fury fan mantra; ‘Fury is no Fa, Modugno or Joshua’ or that he is ‘too big, too strong’ for Usyk. During the championship rounds, I remember how Usyk literally shoved Fury off of him into the corner like a sack of potatoes. You could see on Fury’s face he was in disbelief. Usyk is deceptively sturdy and strong.

    So I voted no. Not because I don’t agree with the statement of OP. It’s just that I think it was one of several reasons a rather than the sole reason for him winning the fight.
     
  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    There was one I remember midway through round 4, Fury goes to clinch, tries to tie up Usyk's left arm but Usyk uses his right hand, places it on the side of Fury's head and pushes his head to turn Fury and spin out of the failed clinch attempt.

    Even when Fury did successfully clinch and tie up Usyk, he failed to control the clinch as Usyk would keep both arms tight to his body, preventing Fury gaining control of a free arm and stayed in a bladed stance and not square up so he couldn't be pushed back and using his head and shoulder in this bladed position to prevent Fury forcing him into a squared stance where he could them push him back to the ropes or a corner where he could then trap Usyk and work like we saw when he used these clinching tactics against Cunningham and Wallin.

    So Fury was able to use clinching to slow the pace of the fight but he couldn't really use it offensively. Had Fury been able to use it offensively it may have been a different fight. But then Usyk might have just found another solution.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh right, I remember that one, though I wouldn't call that a clinch attempt by Fury. That was a situation where they both ended up tied up after throwing a right hand, and being stuck, Usyk did shake that off while Fury was content to stay tied up.

    I see what you're getting it, that Usyk fought out of that clinch, but it's not accurate to say he denied "every" clinch attempt. Fury successfully clinched numerous times, as in not just getting tied up randomly like in that one, but there were instances when Fury actually grabbed a hold of Usyk and forced a break.
     
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  8. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Lol! No Fury lost because Usyk is simply twice the fighter he is.

    Fury only made it to the final bell because he’s 40lbs bigger and six inches taller than Usyk ;)
     
  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is the correct answer. Watching these two fight, for as good as Fury is, Usyk is a genius level fighter who had the answer to every question posed to him.

    Fury is a very good fighter.
    Usyk is an all time great.

    And that is the difference.
     
  10. miniq

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    Fury didn't come to wrestle or big man usyk. He isn't playing the fools game and to able to still bring that kind of fight was magnificent

    He came to box him and it worked great for some rounds just fell short on execution
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Nope. Usyk was just better, and he'll beat him again in the rematch.
     
  12. spravedlivylev

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    Exactly right. All the Fury fanboys laughed when, upon their citing the age-old “a good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un” thing, I told them that the problem was, while Fury is a good big ‘un indeed, Usyk is not simply a good little ‘un but a once-in-a-lifetime talent and already an all-time great little ‘un. They don’t laugh anymore. In fact, they just disappeared as expected. @miniq is the only one left, but Usyk beat the cocky troll out of him too. @Thunderstorm, @DaRealJT, @Redbeard7, @Dubblechin and co have all gone AWOL. I imagine watching that 9th round did some permanent psychological damage to them, poor things.
     
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  13. Murderers' Row

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    This

    He fought and he lost. It happens.
     
  14. spravedlivylev

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    Are you ready to admit Usyk is simply the superior fighter? You sound like those desperate Joshua fans you mocked back in the day with their “but… but… but in the rematch he can make things right, he just needs to change this and adjust that.” And when the rematch was a tiny bit more competitive (which, frankly, was more down to the fact that Usyk literally went to war and his preparation, as well as his physical and psychological condition, took damage as a result), but essentially the same, Usyk winning about nine rounds in each fight, they now talk about how this new and improved and confident Joshua would do better. As if knocking out Wallin and an MMA guy would help against the best boxer alive today.

    So, are you going down the weak sauce “Fury can still do this, he just needs to do this and that” route, or are you ready to be honest and just admit that Usyk is on a level nobody can touch, not even the best, prime, whatever Fury? Everything was in Fury’s favour, everyone in the boxing establishment wanted him to win, and he still lost and was battered senseless.

    So which stage of the grieving process is it for you now, my old chum? Still denial or ready for acceptance?
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah next time listen what i'm telling you, that it's not that easy to clinch a guy who was the best front and back footwork in the business. This ain't Povetkin.