Fury finally talks...and he's delusional as ever...

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  1. I am Legion

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    Who cares, the results stands for all time. Fury lost and Usyk won. I do feel a bit sorry for Fury, I don't think boxing is the right sport for someone with mental health issues, punches to the head can only make it worse. He needs to retire.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This sums it perfectly.
     
  3. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    The sooner you guys figure out that Fury is a modern day circus ring master the less his antics will move the needle. He's 90% promo, 10% product.
     
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  4. snake33

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    Nobody got their ass kicked. A draw or split decision either way.
    The next fight will be more interesting.
    They only thing delusional are the fans.
    Revisionist history has always been a thing in boxing.
     
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  5. shadow111

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    :deal:
     
  6. themaster458

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    Round are scored by CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING, Aggression, Ring Generalship and Defense. I think we can agree Usky was better on Aggression, Ring Generalship and Defense lets go over clean effective punches. Now since we agree that Usky clearly won the first minuate of the round lets review the rest.

    "Now at center ring, about 1:50, Fury starts feinting Usyk, results in a jab landed by Fury through the guard. It was a double jab, the second missed, the first landed. Your video says the first missed, no it defintiely landed through the guard."

    Nope both jabs missed the first touched his guard which is not a clean punch and was thereby blocked

    "Fury jab at 1:42 clearly landed to the shoulder. Your video says it missed. Wrong. It landed."

    A punch to the shoulder is not a clean punch so yes by the rules of boxing it doesn't count.

    "Fury starts clowning Usyk, puts both hands behind his back and bobs and weaves. Fury jab blocked, follow up right hand misses."

    Okay

    "Fury jab at 1:29, Usyk tries to slip it, but it appears to connect to the right side of Usyk's head. Your video says it missed. Hard to be sure."

    It misses nothing lands cleanly so far Fury has yet to land a clean punch

    "Fury Follows up with a jab (blocked) then the left hook, you say missed, once again Usyk does well to slip it, but like the other one, appears to graze him somewhat."

    Again not a clean punch and it didn't land

    "1:26 good jab to the body by Usyk."

    It was a straight, and yes a clean punch which means it should count more then anything Fury has thrown so far

    1:22 jab by Fury blocked.

    Okay


    "1:16 hard jab landed by Fury."

    Eh wasn't that hard but sure so far only clean punch he landed

    "1:12 good one two from Usyk."

    Yes a clean punch and much more significant then anything Fury has landed so far

    "1:10 Good jab by Fury"

    Okay

    "1:06 Double Jab from Fury, both blocked."

    Yep

    "1:00 Good jab to the Body by Usyk"
    Again it was a straight

    "Usyk is definitely winning this round with 1:00 remaining."
    Yep and he clearly won the first minute as well so its a pretty clear Usyk round at this point he won 2 min of it clearly which would mean Fury needs something big to offset the 2 min Usyk has won so far.
    I'll continue the rest in the next post
     
  7. themaster458

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    "0:58 Jab to the body by Usyk. Hard to be sure from the angle but it sounded like it landed."

    It did and this time it was a jab the rest were straights


    "0:54 Jab from Fury through the guard. Not the best angle, your video says "Possibly Blocked" No, that one landed pretty good between the gloves. Fury throws a second jab, that second one appeared to be blocked."

    They were both blocked and landed on Usyk's guard not a clean punch


    "0:47 Fury right uppercut to the body, your video says "Possible Blocked" it's hard to tell from the angle, but it looks to have landed and landed hard."

    It landed on his arms again not a clean punch

    0:44 Fury jab your video says "barely grazed him". It landed, bounced right off the forehead.

    Nope it barely touched him again not a clean punch


    "0:43 Fury jab lands through the guard. Your video says "blocked". It may have hit some gloves but it defintitely got through and connected to the head. That's a connect for me."

    It was a blocked again not a clean punch you keep landing blocked shots as landed when they're not


    "0:43 Fury jab to the shoulder / upper arm, you say missed. We can count that as a shoulder shot."

    Shoulder shots are not clean punches so no you don't count them


    "0:43 Hard right hook from Fury lands to the ear around Usyk's guard."

    It wasn't a hard shot it was a slap punch and it looked like Usyk's guard took off some of the sting of the punch but sure we can consider it a clean punch so far the only one Fury has landed


    "Just right there at 0:43 on the clock, that's essentially a 4 punch combo from Fury. You claim only 2 landed, when really all 4 landed."

    Only one landed cleanly so its the only one that should count


    "0:35 Good 3 punch combo from Usyk with Fury in the corner. All 3 landed. Notice how you counted the 3rd punch in that combo which landed directly on to Fury's shoulder. If you're gonna credit Usyk with this shoudler shot, then you gotta count the shoulder shots from Fury earlier in the round, which you didn't. Gotta be consistent. :deal:"


    They all landed on his body and his head none of them hit his shoulders so far Usyk has outlanded Fury in the last minute based on CLEAN punching


    "0:30 Fury jab was blocked, followed by a one two Fury, both were blocked."

    Sure


    "0:26 Fury jab your video says "Barely grazed him". No that landed clean, bounced right off the forehead, more than a graze."

    He touched him it wasn't a clean punch


    "0:26 Then Fury lands a hard right uppercut to the rib cage. Your video was correct in noting that "both guys connect" however Fury's punch was far more impactful. Usyk landed a little right to the head, Fury connected hard to the rib cage. So that was not an even exchange, that was an eye catching shot from Fury that certainly caught the judges eye."

    Sure but Usyk is still outlanding him based on clean punches


    "0:20 Left hand by Usyk towards the body, can't tell if it landed due to the angle. May have been blocked by Fury's arm / elbow."

    Looks like it did but wasn't super hard

    After a series of missed punches by Usyk when Fury was bobbing and weaving . . ."

    He landed a left hand to the body and a short hook at the very end but sure it wasn't super clear how clean the punch was


    "Usyk connects with two light jab at about 0:19 seconds. Your video missed this. These were "grazes". They probably weren't counted by Compubox and they were insignificant to the scoring of the round, but they did connect."

    Not super clean punches but sure


    "0:15 Fury lands a good jab to the chin, neck area Usyk. Your videos skipped this. This jab landed better than the two grazes by Usyk at 0:19."

    He didn't land bad angle but looks like Usyk slipped it and it def didn't land better then Usyk's punches


    "0:14 Fury throws another jab, our view of it is completely blocked by Fury's body. This may have been another landed jab by Fury. Or not, impossible to know from this angle."

    Sure but didn't look like a hard punch


    "0:13 Effective feint by Fury, gets Usyk to flinch hard."

    Feints aren't scored


    "0:12 Fury jab, partial block, but did connect to the head."

    Not a clean punch


    "Usyk jab lands to the body"

    Yep that's a clean punch


    "With Fury's back to the ropes, Usyk tries a left straight, Tyson evades it and the punch misses. Then Fury lands a massive right uppercut to the body. It's punches like these that catch the judges eye."

    Yeah that was a good punch but not enough to offset all the clean punches Usyk has landed so far

    "The crowd reacts big time to that punch, that was a round-changing punch. Then Fury ends the round with a good jab to the face right as the bell rings."

    Yeah but didn't look super hard

    Overall Usyk landed more clean punches and while Fury landed two hard punches most of his jabs were either blocked, missed, or were touches. You give the round to the person who landed more clean and effective shots and it was clear that it was Usyk. Usyk also won on all the other criteria as well. Overall a pretty clear Usyk round no idea how anyone can score it for Fury based on landing two shots at the last minute
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    You're wasting your time debating with this guy he thinks the earth is flat no I'm not trolling.

    He thinks Canelo vs Mayweather was a competitive fight and that Canelo has an argument for a draw.

    He thinks Canelo vs Bivol was a legit 115-113 fight and spent like 100 pages posting screenshots of "shoulder punches" to make an argument for Canelo.

    In other words an absolute numpty not worth wasting your time on.
     
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  9. themaster458

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    Fair he does seem to count shoulder punches instead of clean punches
     
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  10. Serge

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    What the hell are you doing Shadow you absolute maniac? :facepalm: :lol:
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He count punches to the gloves, and punches that clearly hit thin air. And on the other hand, where it doesn't suit his agenda he missed all of the opponent work.

    I said that again, anyone with a sense of mind will ignore this troll. He is either mental clinic patient or he is trolling.
    And again we have DeepStrike AI now, that can't miss punches, as they use 4-5-6 cameras all around the ring, and they have perfect view at every single second.
    And i'm not saying we need AI to score the fights, as this is not build for that, this is build to clearly replace the compubox which is highly inaccurate and can be biased, based on person sitting and hitting the buttons.

    In terms of actual landing punches, impactful ones, DeepStrike AI is the way to go.
    And this is enough, as the boxing criteria is quite clear. And everyone can make his mind.
    The good thing is, trolls like Shadow and all of the deluded Fury ones, can't lie through their teeth now, and claim nonsenses like this kid.

    He is been mocked by everyone for his bias, yet he think someone will take his post as a credible source of anything else than horse ****.

    I already goes through about his delusion to Canelo - Bivol, but i forget to mention that in the previous threads, he claimed Fury was the Ring Generalship and he think he won the first 2 rounds, cause Fury was showboating, and that was fooling Usyk.

    The moment i see this i clicked Hide Ignored Content asf as humanly possible. :D
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He is mental bro. In one of the threads after the fight, he said Fury won the first 2 rounds, cause he was showboating, and that was fooling Usyk, and that Fury was the Ring Generalship. :D
    The kid doesn't even know what Ring Generalship is. :D He is so bad.
    But your post make me laugh so hard man.
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah and in this thread he lied, and claimed he never said that. :D He goes on to delete his own post, so people can't quote him on this. He is not just delusional, he is obsesses.
    And imagine saying Fury was winning the first 2 rounds, cause his showboating was fooling Usyk. :roflmao:
     
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  14. spravedlivylev

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    Wait, what?
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does it look like I'm doing, we're going through Round 2 and summarizing what happened.