Fury finally talks...and he's delusional as ever...

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    To decide whether Fury even has a 1/3 chance? :D

    This delusional talk doesn't bode well for Fury turning up better than he was in fight one... And he needs to be.
     
  2. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Usyk won a bare minimum of eight rounds, mate. 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. This is the absolute bare minimum, with the 9th being a 10-8 round. It was a 116-111 UD minimum and we are very generous to Fury here. Look at the Jabbr punch and pressure stats. Usyk outlanded Fury in a total of 10 rounds and pushed the action for the whole 12 rounds. These numbers come from the most accurate scoring system ever used.
     
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't care what comes out of his mouth, I know he's a slabber

    It fairly winds up you guys that hate him lol

    F..k it, I am backing it. I will jump on the delusional train and even put money on it

    He beats Usyk December 21
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm not looking at punch stats, I watched the fight.

    Rounds 1,2,3 were really close, I wouldn't describe them as absolutely clear rounds for Usyk.
     
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Hurt him more than he was hurt in a ring before? Did you not see Fury Wilder 1? He got absolutely planted.
     
  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Fair enough!

    I don't hate him, I'd just strongly prefer Usyk to win and see it as extremely likely.

    And I'll enjoy the back and forth with you, as ever.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    12 round was a clear Usyk round. Fury landed 1 good punch, where Usyk landed 10+ good punch. Fury fanboys on here give Fury rounds and say he dominates, when he land 1 or 2 good shots, and completely ignore all of his opponent work.
    Same story as most of his fights.
    They are delusional as a next level.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And how where they close ? On what criteria exactly? You say you ain't looking at punch stats, but you are looking at what? Your bias ?

    On what Boxing Criteria Fury won any of this rounds? I would include the 7 and the 12 round.
    The only round where you can hypothetically give Fury based on Boxing Scoring without bias is the 4th. round, as i think Fury landed more clean shots to the head of Usyk, but Usyk landed overall more and overall more power punches including to the bodies. As Usyk landed quite some body shots in that round.

    Again tell me on which exactly criteria you have the fight at 6 even, and score it 114-113 for Usyk.
    There is absolutely ZERO, and i mean ZERO chance that Fury won 5 rounds, let alone 6 rounds. The only way you can pull 6 rounds for Fury is for you to being heavily biased in his favor and pull some crazy mental gymnastics.

    Round 1 was a close round, until Usyk landed that overhand Left , which was the best, hardest and most clean punch of the round. On what criteria you can make a case for Fury winning that round exactly? Round 2 was not even close at all. Usyk started with a big one-two, that landed cleanly, and all Fury has done was hitting his head showboating. Then he proceed to land 1 jab, while eating like 5-6 body punches and just run around the ring, let Usyk control the fight and the pace, which is what Ring Generalship is. There is not even a debate that Usyk is also the Effective Aggressor at this point as well.
    Usyk than landed another 1-2 on Fury, this time not that hard as the first one, but still landing punches. And while doing so Usyk was constantly hitting Fury body.
    How are Fury defenders somehow ignore all the Usyk work to the body? And it was all Power shots, as that Left Straight is a power shot of Usyk. Then Fury threw a bit of punches, but all of them either landed on thin air or on Usyk gloves, absolutely not a single clean shot, or a shot that even touch Usyk head, outside of 1-2 jabs overall.
    Usyk proceed to pressure Fury into the corner once more, and landed big body shot, big Right Hook, and then Left Hook(not that big) as well.
    Fury than does nothing, and throws 1-2 arm punches that didn't even landed on Usyk gloves, but on thin air.
    Fury than throw uppercut, that landed on Usyk elbow guard.
    Usyk than proceed to pressure Fury, and landed a couple of more body shots.
    The last seconds proceed as the same, and Fury throw an uppercut that landed on Usyk chest, and didn't touch Usyk face at all. Fury was showboating, like the punch landed, but this was his strategy trying to fool judges and people that have no clue, which obviously has effect.
    But the judges weren't fooled, they were just paid actors.

    No sense to go any further if you think the first 2 rounds were close, as they were not at all.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    You're far too emotional to have a conversation with. I've told you this before.

    Nothing to see here, move on please.
     
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  10. Russell

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    I'm experiencing vicarious embarrassment. But I can almost tolerate Fury's diarrhea of the mouth, because his "era" is over and soon he'll just be a skid mark that held the division hostage for a few years.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

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    Can't disagree with you here... Plus posts are just way too long - classic tl;dr.

    I think you can make an argument that enough rounds were close within the round that with a consistent improvement, Fury could pick up more rounds...

    The question is whether he's capable of making that consistent improvement - whether his fitness can improve (relative to Usyk's) and whether his ability to absorb body punches without slowing down can improve (relative to Usyk's)...
    If not, he's got very little chance of winning the rematch.
    I'm not sure the mindset we're seeing here is a good thing for his chances of improving himself - but there's always the option of Usyk declining further also, we'll find out!

    I don't see a contradiction at all in saying that it was competitive for the most part BUT also should've been a clear UD on the cards.
     
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  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk is the favourite, but I can't jump on his bandwagon now

    The English believe every year is the year to finally win a major comp. Despite going close at the the last Euros every man and their dog knows they will never win a major comp again

    Yet their fans will always believe despite repeated disappointment.

    I will do the same regarding Fury lol

    But seriously, I picked him before and I have to back the same horse. The video is absolutely delusional gibberish
     
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  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I fully agree
    The fight and some rounds where competitive, but Usyk clearly won more rounds. No dispute and the right man won

    An 8-4 or even 9-3 fight can be competitive. I think of Floyd v Cotto, even Tyson vs Ruddock

    Fights were competitive, but no doubt who won
     
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  14. spravedlivylev

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    It seems you don’t really know what hurt means in boxing terms. When he got up from that knockdown, h the referee ordered him to move from side to side. He did that, no problem, he was jogging to the nearest corner and back with a spring in his step. His legs were strong under him, his movement was as controlled. Around 10-15 seconds later, he was taunting Wilder with hands put behind his back. He was moving around effortlessly and won the rest of that round. He was also clear and lucid mentally.

    Against Usyk? His eyes already rolled back into his head from that first huge left hand. Even the Fury fanboy British media talked about this. He was stumbling all over the place. When the referee gave him the longest ten count in boxing history (once again, not my words, Derek Chisora said that), and the round was over, he was stumbling, the referee had to escort him to his corner by holding his left elbow. He was totally out of it. Even after the break, in the tenth round, he was on his back foot in survival mode. None of the attacking you saw against Wilder just seconds after he got up. None of the taunting. None of that agility. And then after the fight, he wished everyone a Happy New Year. Mate, that’s concussion right there. No country on the planet celebrates New Year in May but that poor sod still thought it was around New Year’s Eve. That confusion was also not there after he got up against Wilder, listen to his post fight interview from that night.

    I can’t believe I had to explain it like that btw. You Fury apologists can always surprise me with your lack of understanding of boxing.
     
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  15. It's Ovah

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    But it's got Compu in the title!!!