Amateur fights count when talking about glass chins like Wilder's, apparently only to nuthuggers like you does it not count, except when you want to talk about his Bronze medal. Double standards much? Show me the video where got KO'd be Maskaev? Anyone who geniunely knows boxing knows that is not what happened. When Vitali was coming back from retirement, he was attempting to fight Maskaev to reclaim the belt, both men wanted it.....Sam Peter and DK wouldn't take the step-aside money, so Vitali beat the **** outta Peter and made him quit. Go learn your boxing history before you come at me with your bull****.
I still think Wilder takes this one... But he should prove it in the ring. I don't see the big problem with these two fighting.
Fury is sloppy as **** with weak chin and no power. How these fools figure he'd handle getting hit by a big puncher like Wilder when featherfisted CW size Pajkic had him out on his feet 2 fights ago is beyond me. Being british= blind devotion to every brit fighter even those with glaring flaws and little upside like flabby Fury.
so wilder knocking out guys that have been knocked out about 10 times each already in their careers make him some kind of punching legend? :rofl handing ownen beck his 8th loss in a row impresses you? knocking out kertson manswell after coming off a knock out loss and 3rd loss in a row impress you? knocking out jesse oltman in his 3rd fight in 7 years coming off a loss? amazing knocking out 41 year old marlon hayes who hadnt fought in 5 years but had lost 5 times in a row before the 5 year vacation (at light heavyweight) so wilder giving him 6 lossess in a row is pretty incredible. :rofl those are just his last 4 fights.... pathetic isnt a good enough word for his opponents... you must be boarderline ******ed for thinking he even has a chance against a guy like tyson fury who isnt even that good either. no logic whatsoever :huh:-(
i want wilder to fight live on channel 5. make this fight happen, somebodys 0 has got to go, i love fights like that
Show me the video where Wilder was dropped by Sconiers. Yeah good luck. What proof do you have that Wilder has a glass chin. Of all the big punchers he has faced he was dropped once. Since when does being dropped once=glass chin? Yeah it's easy to call someone a glass chin when you have never laced them up. You just sit there on your fat ass and *****. Take a look at this: VITALI KLITSCHKO: STOP WHINING, STOP LYING, STOP CRYING By Oleg Maskaev: Dear Vitali, Lets stop the nonsense. When I fought you for the CSCA (Centrum Sports Club Army) Military Championship, I stopped you in the 1st round. You were badly hurt and your corner threw in the towel. Stop making excuses, stop lying and be a man and admit it. That was our 1st fight. I became Heavyweight Champion in August 06 and made my 1st defense in December 06 in Moscow before a sellout crowd in the 1st Heavyweight Championship bout in the history of Moscow. Your people contacted my promoter, Dennis Rappaport, and said that the WBC had designated you Champion Emeritus; and as such you had the right to immediately face me for the Heavyweight Championship. I agreed to fight you despite the fact that you were inactive for about 4 years and that you cancelled your last 4 fights due to injury. . After months of negotiations surrounding the controversy as to who had the 1st right to fight for the Championship, Samuel Peter or you, I stood firm and supported your position. In return for my loyalty, you and your people started double-talking and procrastinating. On or about April 07 HBO became disgusted and gave us a deadline for the contract to be signed. I signed the contract and was told that my promoter would receive your executed contract the next day. Vitali, your contract never was signed and you gave some ridiculous excuse that you wouldnt have enough time to train. What were you doing for 4 months, getting a suntan and not training? I had very serious surgery for my elbow, due to injuries I suffered in my fight Dec. 06. I went for rehabilitation after the surgery and was still ready to fight. You claim that you shouldnt have to fight 2 successive mandatories, but thats exactly what the WBC had ordered me to do. You never complained or suggested that it was unfair or the WBC didnt have the right. Of course not! It benefited you Vitali. Life is a two way street, there arent 2 sets of rules, one for you and one for everyone else. You say you want to fight Arreola, Haye, or Dimentrinko, I dont blame you .none of them have ever beaten a top ten contender. Remember the words of Joe Louis, you can run but you cant hide. For whatever the reason you have done everything humanly possible to avoid fighting me. I dont know if it is psychological or what. Sometimes a fighter has another fighters number like Mosely had DeLaHoyas and Forrest had Moselys. These fighters won in the amateurs and also scored and won big upsets in the pros. Vitali, I know how to beat you. I stopped you in the amateurs and Ill stop you whenever you have the courage to face me in the ring. Prior to my fighting Peter I suffered a devastating back injury, the 1st in my professional career, I knew that if I had to postpone the Peter fight again, my title would have been stripped from me. There were strange and bizarre circumstances, surrounding the Peter fight, perhaps even bordering on the criminal. The truth of which will eventually come out. Suffice it to say that the real Oleg Maskaev was not in the ring that night. Today I am 100% healthy .and a 100% healthy Oleg Maskaev is a dangerous man. I respect you as a sportsman, so do whatever you choose; go to mediation, go to court, say your prayers, but remember if you defeat Gomez, you cant fight anyone before you fight me. Vitali, stop the whining and lets start fighting. Ill fight you in Russia, in the U.S., or even in your own backyard. Lets get it on. Article posted on 27.02.2009 Unlike you,I look things up before opening my mouth.
I give them a fair shake. Damn you Klitschko fans sure do stick together huh? I know I know "The Klits are the best ever and wont ever lose and never really lost."
No ones saying he's a punching legend....does he punch harder than fellow glass jawed fighter Fury? Absolutely no question. Maddalone is no better than Manswell neither is Pajkic, Firtha, Mcdermott etc... Fury has faced one good fighter in Chisora other than that his opposition is comparable to Wilders. Difference is Wilders putting them away in one round in impressive devastating fashion like he should be. that's enough for me to know he hits a lot harder than Fury and you know what they say when 2 weak chins are involved- you go with the puncher everytime. It's not like Fury's some sorta of defensive genius that can avoid the big right from a faster fighter all night and it's not like he has the power to put anyones lights out wiht one punch either. Wilder KO'd Manswell quicker than Ustinov and Stivern who is considered a big punching HW and Manswell had gone the distance vs Chagaev and Boswell so the fact that Wilder KO'd him with ease in 1 has to at least indicate he's got good power....to deny that is moronic.
You should probably actually look at the records of all the fighters he faced, before continuing to make a fool of yourself. You should also consider that Manny Steward has said publicly that Wilder has the most devastating right hand in the game today. Yes, including Wlad. Manny probably knows more than you about baxin. ---------- This thread is like trying to discuss global warming with a Republican. :roll:
Goddamn you're stupid. Everyone knows Sconiers dropped Wilder, the evidence has been posted time and time again. Wilder's team have gone to great lengths to keep the video off youtube and other sites, an embarrassing method of damage control IMO. His handlers should just own up to the fact his chin is grade A china. So you want to post a stupid open letter from Maskaev AFTER he lost his belt to Peter and was rendered irrelevant in the division, and clearly wanted a payday?? :rofl The letter started with 2 true statements to start off, Vitali was hurt and the corner did throw in the towel. Maskaev did not stop him however. Vitali had a broken right hand and was instructed not to use it, he did, and the communist trainer pulled him out of the fight. Again, show me the video (or even a photo) proving otherwise. You can divert the focus from Wilder to Klitschko or whoever all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Wilder is a hype job that'll be further exposed when he ever decides to face a live body like a fighter should. You have no idea who I am or what experience I have or what I do for a living, so STFU. I bet you're not a trained chef, but you feel entitled to ***** if food in a restaurant isn't to your liking right? Does the chef come out and tell you that you have no place to talk since you can't cook, how about the other customers? No. The social rules don't change for boxing dimwit. Run along now.