Fury goes full delusional...says Usyk is "by far" not the best he has ever faced.

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm looking forward to the decider next year
     
  2. AdamT

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    So Fury is definitely pulling out then?
    I guess I better make other arrangements then as it's the last weekend before Christmas

    Thanks for letting me know
     
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  3. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury did the universal wank gesture towards Usyk in the first round and ended up looking like a wanker in the 9th round.

    Man should take lessons from other peoples mistakes aswell as his own. Fury can learn and should learn from other boxers and Joshua was made into a good example. Fury has often called his opponents midgets, 6 ft 2 Cunningham a midget, a rabbit, a middleweight, a dosser. All to hype himself up that his opponent is easy work for him. Just like Joshua tried to convince himself that Dubois is "sh1t". But Fury's antics never worked with Usyk.

    I think while Joshua was trying to get up of the canvas doing a headstand after being cracked by a Dubois right hand he learnt his lesson. Joshua never said Andy Ruiz is "sh1t" in their rematch and fought like it, did what he had to do to win. Fury should take Usyk more serious if he wants to win.
     
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  4. like a boss

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    What a boring world it would be if we were all perfect.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

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    Not definitely, but I think there is a very good chance.
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is it the same sheep who predicted the first fight wouldn't happen playing double or nothing with the rematch??
     
  7. humbug

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    He knows that he wasn’t in peak physical condition when he fought Usyk as he hardly sparred after the cut. Fury also knows the fight was extremely tight. Fury also knows he got tired in round 9 and got caught bad.

    This is correctable. I’m expecting Fury to come in extremely well prepared and blast out Usyk inside of 8 rounds.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

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    The two problems with this are:

    1) It was only extremely tight because of judges and a ref openly on Fury's side. Usyk landed more punches, he landed more power punches, he landed more punches in 7-8 rounds, and he got the standing 8. Also, that standing 8 should have been a stoppage. The fight wasn't that close.

    2) He can't really get in shape anymore. When you hit about 35, a certain amount was either preserved or squandered. Fury squandered his physical ability hard.
     
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  9. humbug

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    1) Dude it was close.

    2) He’s a 6 foot 9 phenom, box on the back foot and sting like a bee or come forward and put the pressure on like a beast, if he chooses to outbox or put it on Usyk, if he’s fully prepared it’ll be a Fury victory.
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

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    Had it ben scored correctly, it wouldn't not have been that close. Fury should have been stopped.

    As for him being a 6'9" phenom, he's 6'7", and you will see. Getting in shape is just going to tear down him body.
     
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  11. Serge

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    The fight wasn't ''extremely tight.'' This narrative being pushed primarily by Belly and members of the pro Belly British boxing media that Belly won the first half of the fight is complete nonsense. Usyk won at least 2 if not 3 of the first 6 rounds but these sycophantic weasels are trying to gaslight the sheep and casuals into believing Belly was boxing Usyk's ears off and dominated from round 1 through to 7. Belly had a good spell from round 4 onwards.

    And let's not forget it took over a year of public shaming and ridicule from the boxing world, losing millions of his own fans, Usyk bending over backwards and jumping over every roadblock Belly kept putting in his way and agreeing to all his unreasonable, unfair and disrespectful demands, and all the money in Saudi to finally prise Belly out of his giant chicken coop which he had been cowering in the darkest corner of in a puddle of his own urine from Usyk for years.

    A very jittery and nervous Belly openly admitted on camera what was it like four years ago now or perhaps even longer that he wanted absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Usyk and his tactic of trying to age him out was obvious.

    Even the Usyk of a few years ago would've stopped him or won much wider had it gone to the cards.
     
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  12. humbug

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    The fight was extremely close and Fury barely sparred.

    Usyk has Pacquiao’d the heavyweight division, so reminiscent of when Pacquiao jumped to 147 pounds.

    Usyk simply shouldn’t be there, his ko’s are against a washed up contender and an immature Dubois, Dubois dropped him legally by the way.

    All it will take is a proper Heavyweight to realise this and put it on him.

    Fury Will KO him.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    If I'm to try to get into the mind of Fury, I think he would be *perhaps* (and this is all speculation) that he would have noted how easily he was dispatching Usyk over the first half of the fight and *perhaps* *in his mind* he sees Usyk's comeback as more to do with him making unforced errors and maybe starting to lose concentration than a testmanet to Usyk's greatness. And to that I and I'm sure most of this forum would disagree. But if Fury is to convince himself that he's better than his first performance and make himself believe that he's better than Usyk that's perhaps what he needs to tell himself heading into a rematch to give him the confidence to fight better the second time around.

    Now personally I think there's maybe some truth to this but also is half-way delusional as I think Usyk really did come on strong and willed his way to changing the fight, and if Fury isn't honest with himself about how good Usyk is then the rematch could be more of the same. But I do think a more focused Fury could be a problem for Usyk who maybe could have the same kind of success early but stay focused and avoid being caught and hurt down the stretch.

    I also think that despite the fact that Usyk is clearly a more skilled boxer than Wilder ever was, and despite the fact that Wilder gets a lot of hate around here after being exposed by Fury, at the same time, Fury may well believe that Wilder was a better opponent (not in terms of skill but in terms of power and just overall danger) when he fought Wilder the first time and was nearly KO'd. For all the claims that Usyk was robbed of a KO vs Fury he was closer to being legitimately counted out vs Wilder, and was down twice.

    I don't know who Fury has fought that he would believe would be better than Usyk though. Arguably Wlad, the ease at which he beat Wlad notwithstanding, maybe Wilder in that first fight who came into it undefeated, not in terms of skill but in terms of pure punching power.

    But to claim that Usyk is not "by far" the best he has faced, is to say that Usyk is by far worse than Wlad or Wilder were, which I would say is a stretch. Usyk is clearly a better boxer than Wilder ever was, though not as powerful you could say, but powerful enough. Wlad as a whole you could argue was better than Usyk though I think that's debatable, but not the version of Wlad Fury fought that night, who was easily outboxed, which was a credit to a sublime performance by Fury, and a better version of Fury back then than now, but also arguably one of the worst version of Wlad who didn't even attempt to fight. If we're to believe that Fury was just all wrong for Wlad stylististically that's one argument but still in no way could any reasonable person believe that Wlad that night was better than the Usyk who fought him.
     
  14. Serge

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    No it wasn't. The most generous score for Belly is 7-5 Usyk + the KD

    Mr ''I make no excuses'' Belly is such a fat coward he gets other people in his team to make his excuses for him. He's a compulsive liar. Neither he or a single one of his fans has a slither of integrity between them combined

    Yes, the first ever undisputed champ in the four belt era ''shouldn't be there'' :facepalm:

    No it was an illegal blow just like all that illegal blow Belly shoved up his nose was

    Dubois was not immature and he has morphed into the dirtiest fighter in the division since hooking up with Don Charles. He should've been DQ'd against Hrgovic and he beat a mentally shot AJ who Usyk destroyed the confidence of. That bald flabby chimpanzee disgrace Belly also shamelessly ducked AJ for years too

    I don't rule out Belly winning as we saw the slowest, least elusive and easiest to hit Usyk we've ever seen last time out which is exactly what Belly was hoping for after ageing him out like the female dog he is. The fact that even that old, slow easy to hit version of Usyk would've 100% knocked Belly's ass smooth out had he ref not been in the bag should really worry you though
     
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  15. Mickc

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    I’m a Fury fan but he needs to give credit where it is due, Cunningham was his first top level opponent,Wilder was his most dangerous opponent and Usyk was his best boxing opponent and also the man who ended his unbeaten run !
     
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