Fury has better resume than AJ

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  1. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Klitschko
    Wallin
    Cunningham
    Hammer
    2x Chisora
    2x Wilder

    I think he has better resume than AJ. He hasn't any losses and also actually won the first Wilder fight. AJ got beaten two times badly. There are too many granddads in AJ's record. Thoughts? Who has better resume right now?
     
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  2. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Lol, no. Fury has fought two champions. One who wasn't much younger than he was when he fought AJ, and one with a padded record who got exposed in three fights. Couldn't even beat a fat, out-of-shape Fury.

    Joshua still has a better record. And now Usyk has done more in three heavyweight fights than Wilder or Fury
     
  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Klitschko
    Ruiz
    Parker
    Takam
    Whyte
    Martin
    Povetkin

    no he doesn’t lol
     
  4. Chitown

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    Cunningham is worth mentioning too IMO.

    Furys resume is better now. Should be 3 wins over Deontay as well. No losses. AJ has 2 decisive losses including a stoppage loss.
     
  5. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    I guess the Joshua fans are hanging onto the idea that losses don't count on a record or resume, then?

    It's clearly Fury right now. Joshua might have a deeper pool of decent / notable wins but Fury's best few wins are better, aren't balanced by a couple of losses and on top of that he still has that claim to being the man who beat the man and / or the consensus champion at Heavyweight, which Joshua never has.

    Joshua's best win is a 41-year-old Klitschko, coming off a loss and seventeen months of inactivity. That's after Fury already went to Wladimir's backyard as the underdog and dethroned him. And like him or not, Wilder has clearly been the third element of the triumvirate at the top of the division since Wlad's toppling, along with Fury and Joshua. You can argue who is to blame, but the facts are that despite all the big talk and a HUGE window of time in which the fight could and should have been made, Joshua never fought Wilder when the fight would have been enormous. Fury's taken him on three times and essentially beaten him on all three occasions.
     
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    Disagree
    Fury only has Wlad and Wilder, maybe Chisora in there... that's it.

    Joshi of course has a couple of losses, but he has the deeper resume and realistically Fury shouldn't be undefeated either.
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Fury also fought an old as hell Wlad. He beats the overrated Wilder a pointless number of times, and has Wallin who isn’t even rated very high
     
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    Fury fought active Wlad and outboxed him 12 rounds. Bodybuilder got thrown to hell by inactive granddad Wlad.

    Wilder is overrated but has the most dangerous punch on the planet. He can crack AJ's skull easily.

    Wallin beats the current AJ.
     
  10. Malieke.H

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    Wlad was older, beltless and inactive when Joshua beat Wlad

    Prime Wlad KO bodybuilder
     
  11. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    That isn’t a deep resume at all. AJ has fought more rated opponents.
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you work that out?
    Usyks HW wins are -
    Witherspoon
    Chisora, who Fury had beaten twice already
    Joshua

    Do you really think that is more than
    Klitschko
    Wilder
    Chisora
    Hammer
    Cunningham

    ?
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

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    2 or lets be honest 3 wins over Wilder is still only Wilder lol. Beating a guy 2 more times you technically already beat the first time doesn't actually make your resume better.

    Fury has the best win vs Wlad but Joshua still has a far, far deeper resume.

    Fury - Wlad (39 y.o), Wilder, Chisora
    Joshua - Wlad (41 y.o) Parker, Pulev, Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz.

    I'd rank these as Wlad(39 y/o), Wlad (41 y.o), Wilder, Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Pulev, Ruiz, Chisora.

    I think it's close but it comes down to what you regard more highly, top wins or who has the most good wins.
     
  14. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Active Member Full Member

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    Fury wins vs AJ wins:

    1. 39.5 Wlad away vs 41 Wlad inactive home

    2. 34.5 Wilder away vs 39 Povetkin home

    3. 36 Wilder away vs 27.5 Whyte neutral

    4. 29 Wallin neutral vs 26 Parker home

    5. 36.5 Cunningham away vs 30 Ruiz untrained neutral

    6. 31 Chisora neutral vs 39.5 Pulev inactive home

    7. 27.5 Chisora neutral vs 37 Takam short notice home

    8. 27.5 Hammer home vs 31 Breazeale home

    Fury “Draw”:

    1. 33 Wilder away

    AJ losses:

    1. 30 Ruiz short notice away

    2. 35 Usyk home


    Fury was the underdog in 4/9 of these fights (Chisora 1, Wlad, Wilder 1, Wilder 2) and a massive underdog vs Wlad, yet he dominated his best opponents more than AJ did, despite turning pro almost 4 years younger. AJ has never even been close to being the underdog and lost to a 10/90 underdog and a 30/70 underdog. Fury has faced KO artists 4 times to AJ’s 1 (going over 40 full rounds to AJ’s 10) and Fury signed to fight Haye in 2013.

    It isn't even close, AJ's resume is utter trash by comparison when considered holistically.
     
  15. ashishwarrior

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    fury lost the first big mc fight
    just as campbell hatton lost last week