Fury in talks to fight Andy Ruiz

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How much do you think it will take to get Ruiz Jr in the ring? Do you see him taking the 20% or 5m they are saying Whyte turned down? Or do you think he will expect closer to the 8m he got to fight Joshua at MSG when Ruiz had zero profile.

    Seems like pie in the sky talk, but sounds nice for the fans
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Everyone hates Bob Arum, Ruiz Jr included. Pretty much every fighter that has been promoted by Bob leaves him for greener grass. Ruiz would have to take less money to fight Fury. Arum will shaft him as much as he can. Ruiz is just a name drop Arum is using for the moment. Helenius is much more likely.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Maybe use your brain? First Chisora fight was for the WBC International HW title, second was for the Silver.
    Do you even have a clue ?
    Whyte is WBC Number 1 for the like of last 4-5 years. Also Whyte send Chisora into another dimension. His Left Hook is absolutely lethal, and he is an actually a dangerous opponent, no matter how you or anyone like to spin it.

    Whyte last 7 opponents:
    Lucas Browne
    Joseph Parker
    Derek Chisora 2
    Oscar Rivas
    Mariusz Wach
    Alexander Povetkin
    Alexander Povetkin 2

    You can spin it how you like it, but for no title holder, he absolutely got the best resume out there.
    Ruiz tweets that he is welcoming Tyson Fury fight.

    But again Fury team are just throwing names out there, and then will spin it and face a complete no-danger opponent.

    And again in a **** normal world a champion should fight his mandatory, and Fury was ordered by the WBC to fight Whyte.
    If he gets a pass on this, boxing is just digging it is own grave.
     
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  4. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    So if Fury does end up fighting Ruiz (who is a far more dangerous opponent than Whyte), because Whyte couldn't agree on a split, are you going to sit here moaning about Fury still?

    Or will you just admit Whyte didn't really want it?
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro you are delusional.
    I don't give a ***** how you try it to spin it. You are in every single thread licking Fury big fat candy .... And defending this fraud.

    Again the facts are:
    There is rules.
    Whyte is not just Mandatory, he is Interim.
    The rules are clear, for million time, cause you need to get back to school and learn to read again.

    10% reserved for the winner.
    30% for the mandatory out of 90%
    70% for the Champion out of 90%

    Interim as there is no new rules get 45%.

    And boxing is about styles.
    Ruiz doesn't style well against Fury and even the kids in school know this.

    Whyte on the other hands is a brawler and have a lethal left hook.

    As i stated before i give Fury 70% chance to win the fight, or 65%. But with him you never know, depends on the shape he show. Also Whyte may show in absolutely best for his most important fight.

    Ruiz has like 10% puncher chance, and if he was actually taking serious his career i would give him better than 10% chance.

    The only one that didn't want the fight, and this is quite clear from the very beginning is Fury.

    Team Whyte has stated they are happy to discuss and meet anything in the middle of 30-45%, which are the rules. They also stated that they are happy to go on purse bid.

    Fury offer 20% which is lower than what the WBC rules for the split are. They don't want the fight to go to purse bid.
    WBC have already ordered the fight, so if Fury duck the fight, he need to be stripped !!!

    Simple as that, if Fury doesn't want to fight Whyte he is ducking him, this is the clearest DUCK in the history of the HW division and nothing that team Fury have done to date don't suggest they want the fight.


    Also the Whyte supposed 10$m. are exactly 7.5m in pounds. Which is pretty normal sum.
    Whyte vs Fury is a stadium fight in UK, where they will get most profit.

    But the old fart didn't want the fight in UK. Maybe cause Fury won't pass the drug tests in there? Or who knows ?

    Also if you think i'm a fan of Whyte you are delusional. Go and check my post history and see how much hate i put on him and Hearn for putting a rematch clause in the Povetkin fight, which was the most ridiculous thing ever.

    What i'm not tho is some biased blinded idiot will close his eye if someone decide to duck his mandatory to obviously take an easy fight.
    And yeah i have stated that if AJ was to duck Usyk that would be a terrible move on him, and would be a duck, and he will look pathetic.
    You can check that out as well.

    Biggest possible fight currently are Usyk - AJ, and Whyte vs Fury. And the winner face the winner. The loser would be good to face Wilder, but that fraud would probably not take any risk at all.
     
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  6. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    Go have a beer and chill out champ. Happy New Year!
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury would beat Whyte easier than Ruiz. An on form Ruiz is dangerous
     
  8. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Ruiz is a bigger name than Whyte no cap
     
  9. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This
    Fury might get old evernight. He looked poor in 3rd Wilder fight.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    But you see, I don't care about the WBC title or their rankings.
    They are corrupt as hell, like you say.
    So why should I care about Whyte and his WBC ranking, his interim WBC belt, mandatory blah blah blah?

    You could give Whyte, Parker and Ruiz all the belts, and reject Fury's claims to be a champion .... But he'd still be the man to beat at the moment. Him and Usyk.
    **** what the WBC or WBO or WBA or IBF say, we all know the top 2 are Fury and Usyk.
    Once you accept that, you have to accept that the rest are just lesser contenders, potential challengers.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Ruiz does more for Fury's résumé than Whyte does, especially if he wins by stoppage.
     
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  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    If Fury fights Helenius, that's a joke. Deserves to be called a farce. Disgraceful really.

    But people whining about the prospect of him fighting Ruiz instead of Whyte aren't proper boxing fans.
     
  13. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    100% on Arum here.
     
  14. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't blame Helenius for jumping on a Fury fight. I would blame Arum and Fury for making that useless fight.
     
  15. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I do get good laugh when someone puts down a win over Chisora as a top defining win. Anyone who is in the top 10 should beat Chisora. Guy is a warrior but that is it. He has lost to every one when given a chance to step up.
     
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