Fury is not an ATG

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  1. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    His fanboys need to just stop with this drivel. Beating a 39 year old Klitschko in one of the most boring heavyweight championship fights ever and then beating an overrated bum destroyer, who has very little boxing skill and poor stamina in Wilder, does not make this guy an all-time great. He was popped for PEDs and took almost three years off because of this issue, then used mental health as an excuse to make people forget about the actual reason he was MIA. After returning to the ring from his hiatus he's faced a slew of bums outside of the Bronze Bum - Seferie, Pianeta, Schwarz, Wallin (struggled in this one) and Whyte (who is washed and was never that great to begin with, just AJ and Povetkin's leftover). I don't see how a sane boxing observer can claim this guy is some all-time great, especially with how inactive he's been. He does have skill for a big guy but stop with this undeserved praise please. Like we're all supposed to be in awe of him and worship the ground he walks on, no thanks.

    He would not have beaten a prime Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis or Wlad imo.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously. He needs to beat at least one prime fighter worth a damn.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a little ATG, like Bowe, Patterson, Norton, etc. To put it in perspective, he will be remembered as a top 20 heavyweight. Considering that Boxrec says that 33,356 men have competed at heavyweight, and there are probably as many whose names were not recorded, that is greatness of sorts.

    He is not in the same converation as Ali, Louis, Lewis, Marciano, Johnson, Frazier, Foreman, etc. He is a not a top ten, and even top 15 would be pushing it. Nor do I believe he could even get there at this point. Not enough time and good opponents left, not to mention there is no indication that he is trying.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You watch your mouth !!

    Resume don't win fights. Fury is the H2H GOAT
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He is an ATG, no matter what happens now.

    He beats Usyk and AJ, he's a top ten lock.

    He loses to Usyk or AJ, he stays top 20 and promotes them to ATG level.

    Can't see a single scenario where he isn't remembered as one of the greats from now on.
     
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  7. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    When the great lewis says its the tyson fury era then you are an atg
     
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  8. makzy

    makzy Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is already the GOAT and will remain so until a man not born from his mother comes along.
     
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  9. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yawn

    Been going on since time immemorial threads about current Fighters having no chance against those from the past

    Fury could hang in any era.
     
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  10. Midwood

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    He is Top 25 . Top 20 considering wilder isn’t a total bum.
     
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    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Best of this era, but don’t know where he ranks all-time.
     
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  12. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    ONLY 2 title defenses. dumped the belt and refused a rematch with wlad and then went on a three year bender. fought two literal nobodies in his first two fights when back. went life and death against wallin.
    NO!
     
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  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Vitali is the H2H Goat.

    Pop on over to classic where he is currently 167-0-0 in fantasy matches.
     
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  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely, ESPN hype train gone made.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As much as i criticize him, and there is every reason for that, if he beats both Usyk and AJ he beat the past old of the division in Klitschko, and he will be beat the current and prime ones in Wilder, Usyk and AJ. That is a top 10 achievement in my book.
     
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