Fury is overrated and already over the hill

Yeah this sums up your post, sorry but this is ******. Not a single argument, just a generalization ...
What point of mine, was wrong, i'm listening ?

 

This whole post bro with all due respect is, if he wanted, or if he, or has he, or, and or, maybe he, but he can't.
What really stands out is, that he was not in a good shape, and it was obvious.
As far as bad day in the office, this is way different compare to what you are trying to make. Bad day in the office means that you were ready, but on the so call day, for same reason(outside of your opponent) you just don't deliver.
This wasn't the case. The case is Fury comes in a bad shape, when he had a year and a half time to be in shape, everything, like what you are saying with eh, oh, may, not, but, he, will, come, and all that b.c. is just excuses.
If you can't get in shape for one of the most important matches in your career, than i don't know when he will be in shape.
And yeah he is definitely past it, and his next match will show it. Let's see when that match will be first. Maybe after another 1,5 year and a half ?

 

Joyce is slow ****, but he started late, maybe one of the reason he still looks solid in terms of him.
As far as prime i totally disagree. Some people may carry it over for longer years, but most don't. Even with the modern drugs and so.
Fury for me is a good example for that and this will be clearly show in his next few matches, if he ever shows up again, maybe after 1,5 year.

Usyk is already past his best, by a lot, and i'm not going to discuss on that again, cause we already have done this, and there was a thread for it.
Not following Helenius and can't comment, but you got to take a factor that some fighters at certain point not taking their career seriously, or not doing enough, but actually doing that in later stage, and their result are better. But that doesn't mean they are in their physically prime at that advance age.
Your physical attributes start to go down between 31-33 for the majority.

 

You are the one with the excuses. And yeah buddy everyone knows that phrases, but you, you are as good as your last fight. This is a gold rule ....
As far as Covid goes, he may have, or may not. For me it looks like he just wasn't ready, and wanted more time for the prep. And yeah in that mind that fight shows us exactly that. Guess in how much worst form he would have been in the fight was actually earlier ....

And yeah it's all guesses, you know, this is a forum. My guess, your guess, simple as that. There is better and worst.
But no one knows the absolute truth.

 

Oh dear you are stretching it already. When the **** i ever complimented Wilder for anything??? Show me a single post of mine, where i was on his train, or buying his hype ?
I was the first to mention he looks terrible, both on training, both on the gym with his ridiculous technique, and the stupid things he is doing, and the **** Yes trainer he got.

As far as the easy, if you call 2 KD easy, oh dear, what mean hard then ? Fury was in a big trouble in that 4 round, and he should be thankful Wilder is such a terrible boxer, or we could have typed different stuffs now, you know ?

And sorry buddy, but you just continue with the excuses.
Fury is professional, and should not take anyone lightly, especially a big puncher like Wilder, who may not have much, but at least had that.

And the first fight was a draw, last time i checked. Don't start another thread about that fight, pls. This is not about this.

 

Entirely? Where did i use that word. I really hate when people try to catch for a words, just because it's suit their agenda.
I have stated clearly why he is overrated for many reason, and why he is on the slide.
You can accept it or not.
And yeah what we do here is guesses and do our opinion. Some are better than the others, and some are nots. It's opinion after all, maybe you should check what that mean.
Saying that in my mind i have my opinion, and you can't change it.

And just like you could make a guesses about Fury camp, tho his words was he was in shape during all the time, and non-stop training, and had a great camp(i'm putting a clamp here, cause Fury is talking b.c. 99% of the time), just like you are claiming, because it's just that a claim that he just maybe wasn't motivated, had a bad camp or so, i could with ease say that he just can't get it any better anymore, cause his body doesn't allowed him to.