Fury said for 3 years "Wilder beats the rest of them"...

You deserve being called out. I'm quite sure you never ate your slice of humble pie for that disrespectful prediction backfiring spectacularly. If you write stuff that a unified world champion has zero chance against any opponent, you deserve every bit of calling out and mocking when your prediction blows up in your face.

 

Are you not even aware Usyk's main tactic against Fury was to run him out of gas. How was Usyk travelling in the mid rounds against Fury until Fury ran out of gas?

Szpilka was 21-1 and had only ever been stopped once until Wilder stopped him.

Ortiz was 31-1 and had never been stopped until Wilder stopped him.

You only succeeded in weakening your argument there.

 

As prophet Fury is a j***

If Wilder continues to fight he will be beat by fighters coming from any part of the world from Europe, from New Zealand, from China, from Camerun, etc.

Lol

 

You mean the 2 rounds, aka 5 and 6? I know Fury fans loves to fantasy, but this is his only rounds, where he was clearly the superior fighter, and when he outlanded Usyk.
It's not like Fury didn't have other moments into the fight, but stop exaggerating, like he was dominating the fight, until the Round 8.

Usyk main tactic was to pressure him, obviously tired him, but also to force the pace and to make Fury make mistakes. As forcing the fight on higher pace than your opponent is usual is what's going to draw mistakes from your opponent. But let's not forget that fight was TKO Round 9, and referee saved Fury. I know you are a fan, but come on ....

Anyway that is irrelevant, as Wilder never ever had the brain or the skill to do that.
The reason he managed to beat Ortiz 1 specifically is mainly due to referee give him extra time, completely illegal. If you are so concern for a fighter health you stop the fight. And yeah it's help that Ortiz was 40 and 41 in Wilder's fight.
And Szpilka was a complete bum, always was. His resume is irrelevant, as he never had any skills.


Now from my experience, which is quite big, not just in Martial Arts, but sports as a whole, but most athletes start declining after 32-33. After 35-36 that declining accelerate fast, and it will eventually slow, and then accelerate on rapid fast again.

Also this process is different from person to person, and it's genetics based, diet, training regime, etc. But you can be the perfect athlete, and the decline can still hit you hard early on. And vice versa. There is no guarantee.

With most athlete for some casuals or people that don't look closely, may think they are getting better, but they are not, it's the experience that the athlete had, that makes them look like that, but their attributes are clearly on decline.

No doubt Wilder was on decline, but who knows when exactly that decline start happening and most importantly, that accelerated decline.
I very much may say that was Fury 2 fight, as Wilder decide to put on 20lbs. of muscle for that fight, and "he was never the same", but not because of the beating, but because of the weight he gained, and he was never the same in terms of physical condition.
All of that is irrelevant.
Wilder was always one trick pony, who also was gifted with great athleticism and explosiveness.
And looking at the Fury 2 fight, he was not the same fighter, mainly because of that 20lbs. of pounds, which clearly makes him cardio/energy nonexistent. And when you hit him hard, after that point he start moving like he is drunk and look shot to ****.
He has done that in Ortiz fights, Fury, Parker, Zhang, every time he gets hit hard. And this is mainly due to his spaghetti legs.

 

Another one who thinks the more you write the better. When the truth is, nobody actually reads it.

 

I mean people are quick to forget, i'm not.
They were a cult here, don't want to name shame them, but they know who they are. They were like a group of bullies, when someone say something about Fury, and all of them at the same time comes and start attacking the poster, even if it's a complete legit post.

They were claiming Fury is the H2H Goat, and he will beat both AJ and Usyk easily, and you see he don't even need to prove it. They saying it is enough, like it's a fact.
How his size and skills will be enough, and he will beat everyone in history of the sport.

But what triggers me to post, what the knowledge he suppose to have, when he was coming with this for years:

Imagine watching at Usyk, and how he moves, and he is not a static target, and to actually think the fight will play with Usyk letting Fury clinch and hold all night, like he is some no-footwork robot like WIlder.
Like Pendulum Step ring a bell or something?

But no we had to listen for years how AJ was robot, who doesn't know how to use his size, and Fury will destroy Usyk, and will show the world how a big man always beats the smaller one, and how to use his size.

This ain't Twitter. Not that our discussion going to be productive.

 

It won't be while you write paragraph after paragraph of stuff nobody ever reads.

 

Once again, nonsense on multiple levels.

Usyk's main tactic against Fury was not running him out of gas. That naturally happens when you fight Usyk and you are out of shape; he doesn't have to specifically build his strategy around it. He did the exact opposite. Instead of fighting on the back foot, having Fury come at him to gas him out, he was the one pushing the action in all 12 rounds. He was the one going forward from round 1. Look at the aggression and pressure numbers on Jabbr. Usyk usually is a slow starter; everybody thought he was going to be on the back foot in the first half of the fight. Instead, he was pushing from round 1, cornering Fury, keeping him on the ropes, going after him even in rounds 5 and 6 which Fury won. How exactly does that achieve running the other guy out of gas? It's not Usyk's problem that Fury is out of condition and can't even keep the pace up for 12 rounds like that. Fury is the only heavyweight that looks like a bag of milk, yet people are fawning over his 'amazing shape" because at least he doesn't weigh over 300 lbs. Fury is not a bulky guy by default; his frame is rather slim. Look at his wrists or ankles. He is not built like Joe Joyce. Yet he weighs at least as much as Joyce. He should always have been fighting around 245-250 lbs, just like he was when Peter was his coach. So no, gassing Fury out wasn't Usyk's tactic. Pushing the action and the pace was—the fact that it resulted in Fury tiring out because he is a fat pig is not Usyk's problem.

And win/loss ratio means absolutely nothing if there are only nobodies on a resume. Are we really talking about such weak arguments? Who of note did Szpilka ever beat? Nobody. Who of note did Ortiz ever beat? Nobody. Just like Wilder. The fact that they had 20+ wins and only 1 loss prior to fighting Wilder is absolutely not an indication that they are quality. There are tons of guys who had at least 20 fights and no losses or no more than 1 loss. That absolutely doesn't prove anything at all. Unless you want to tell me that the likes of Djuar El Scheich, Ebenezer Tetteh, James McKenzie Morrison, Hemi Ahio, Umut Camkiran, Apti Davtaaev, Jesus Escalera, etc., are the next reincarnation of Muhammad Ali.

 

What the actual **** baby reindeer

I literally stopped reading your spam after the 34th paragraph of your unhinged drivel and now I've received 431 emails from you

I've obviously triggered you about your mental health problems, as you spent your entire Saturday night by your keyboard in your mommas box room, completely consumed in your relentless, unhinged hatred for Tyson Fury

You should think about joining a gym or something, having Tyson Fury the 1st thing on your mind when you wake up and the last thing on your mind when you go to sleep is not good for you, try to limit your esb spam to just 450 posts a day in future

 

I've never known anything like baby reindeer on esb, his spam is off the scale, but at the same time you cant say anything he disagrees with or he will threaten to leave Esb for the 256th time in one of his mentally unhinged rants, like anyone would give a ****

 

Says the guy pretending to sparr AJ and KOed him with a jab. This troll is talking about hating on someone or someone to hit a gym.

I don't need to prove anything your ridiculous posts with your boxing knowledge is speaking volume.

 

Speak for yourself.

This is a boxing forum. If you only read from posters who's views align with your own you won't learn anything. People come here to read and engage, and if your reading comprehension isn't what it needs to be you can get help here:

https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-and-writing-basics/reading-comprehension

 

Intelligent people can make their point in short and concise fashion. Those that can't often fall for the trap of thinking the more words they write the stronger their argument. The reality is people tend not to bother reading it.

 

That's YOUR reality and it is a sad one.

 

The more someone is faced with reading the less likely they are to read it. If you haven't worked that out yet that's not my problem.