Fury said for 3 years "Wilder beats the rest of them"...

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  1. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder stopped hiding.
     
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  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    well what else would he say? he's smart enough to know that if you diminish you opponent you diminish you victory over him, however satisfying it might be to talk **** in the moment.
     
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  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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  4. Veerbone

    Veerbone Member Full Member

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    1) Fury was wrong then
    2) Wilder messed up and fought someone who wasn't brought in to be a heavy bag.
     
  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Are you still going around fervently advertising your own poor reading and comprehension skills? Wow!

    Same old “avoidant” schtick, eh?

    Your lack of self awareness is also off the charts. :lol: (Yes, I know, it’s the third paragraph, you must be getting dizzy - too many damn words!).

    For kicks, do you visit libraries on the weekend, tap a librarian on the shoulder, and shout “Hey, I’m nort reading any of thart!” whilst pointing at all the books? :lol::lol::lol:

    You’ve only isolated yourself repeatedly as the obviously, “not so intelligent” poster, - no one else.

    Twitter droppings all over the place, often employed as self convenient, negligible, hot air last words, are not intelligent at ALL.

    That IS the actual reality that your clearly divorcing yourself from.

    And the TRUTH you claimed was/is false.

    Like your old mate, you’re clearly not travelling too well.
     
  6. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hint : People just look past rants. Write something concise and someone might actually read it. I only responded because you quoted me. Otherwise I would have just ignored it all together.
     
  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Usyk’s main tactic was NOT to run Fury out of gas.

    You see, someone devotes one line to such a conclusion without any rationale in tow.

    Brilliant tweet.

    The Dubois fight gave hints that Usyk was warming to planting himself better and punching with more authority with some sacrifice in terms of mobility and evasive tactics.

    Vs Fury, we had Usyk on the front foot, Fury on the back foot. Usyk not looking to tire Fury, rather, Usyk looking to punch Fury out.

    Result: Usyk hitting and hurting Fury hard and often (in terms of power shots) from the get go.

    Not the usual Usyk, instead, starting fast and proactively aggressive. Extremely well considered strikes.

    Here’s a thought - an older, past prime Usyk with not quite the same engine became tired within himself from his not so usual tactics and fast start to the fight - see rounds 4,5 and 6 for the consequential lull.

    Olek gained his second wind thereafter, from and including round 7, building on his early round work/investment to ultimately punch the absolute **** out of Fury in round 9.

    Now Usyk WAS robbed of the stoppage. No question.

    What hasn’t been addressed is that fighters are mindful not to punch themselves out - meaning, not to unrealistically waste energy for a KO/stoppage that isn’t likely.

    But there are times when fighters have wisely elected to put the pedal to the metal and do secure their due KO/stoppage. That’s called Boxing IQ.

    Usyk made that prudent election and poured it on - and he should’ve been legitimately rewarded with a stoppage for that election.

    Instead, Usyk was not only robbed of the KO/TKO, but he was also left to deal with the depletion of his tank over the next several rounds.

    On two prior occasions, in separate fights, Fury was availed of a full 23 seconds to recover after KDs - which clearly corrupts the perception of the true degree of his recuperative powers.

    A protected species much, including the awarding of the nod over Ngannou - with blatant elbows allowed, sans points deductions? Wow.

    However tough the Fury fight was, the referee made Usyk’s task that much tougher. Olek needs to afford the ref his due credit. :lol:
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Lol, you’re kidding, right? I need no hints from you.

    A completely non convergent reply with no basis in fact, yet again.

    You also posted earlier, employing a thinly veiled reference. So much better than directly quoting or engaging, right?

    Terrific MO. Good stuff.

    Check Compupost stats - how are you travelling relative to the rest of the field? Hmmm.

    By all means, ignore me, don’t persist in falsely advertising your position.

    You’ve been well and truly found out, cut your losses.
     
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  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did not read.
     
  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Like I said, found out. Tweet, tweet......
     
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I don't.

    How is a win over a motivated 41 year old legit ATG not a far better win than beating a 39 year old gatekeeper on heart meds?

    Neither is "amazing" in the sense that beating a prime ATG would be... But there's still levels between them.
     
  12. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Nothing happened. Fury bigged a talentless KO artist up to make his resume look better. Any version of Wilder gets beat by the top 10, easily. That's why Fury ducked Joshua and went after Wilder and the WBC belt even though fighting Joshua meant much more money and a crack at the unified championship. Wilder was always going to be an easy fight for any of the top guys. Fury knew this, all top guys knew this, Wilder's management knew this. That's why they ducked Klitschko and Joshua too. Wilder is and has always been trash.
     
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  13. tragedy

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    Klitschko was 41 coming off a 2 year layoff and a loss where he set compubox record lows and before that he struggled with Bryant Jennings who Luis Ortiz brutally knocked out with ease. Klitschko's timeline was having a tough fight with Bryant Jennings, couldn't pull the trigger and set compubox record lows in a loss, 2 year layoff, then comes back and gets knocked out in another back to back loss. So he hadn't looked good in years at this point. Hindsight shows us this is a guy on a clear downswing. Ortiz at this time is still on an upswing and was perceived (Yes he was, I was there) as something of a boogeyman after knocking out Jennings and pretty much dominating his opponents impressively. Klitschko hadn't shown any kind of dominance in years. The TL;DR is one guy was on a clear downswing one guy was on a clear upswing.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Wait, how do you elevate Ortiz based off of the Jennings win while at the same time downplaying Wlad for his performance?
    That right there is you having your cake and eating it too.
     
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  15. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member banned Full Member

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    Wlad struggled with him. Ortiz dominated him.