Fury states that Whyte, Povetkin, Chisora and AJ are all on the same level!

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  1. RB1702

    RB1702 Active Member Full Member

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    Pillowfist Fury is gonna explode they glass on Wilder jaw again then he’ll fight bums and retire and never come back mentally from it.
     
  2. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Active Member Full Member

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    that may prove to be the case, but AJ, fury and wilder have been the main players in recent years.
    only two of them have faced each other...twice, and AJ hasn't faced either.

    for the record, i think wilder sparks AJ.
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    I never had Wilder that high even before he got splattered. He was a paper champ and I don't believe in rewarding cherry picking and PR stunts over hard work and making the right fights.

    Wilder's in the lower part of the top five for me, jostling around Ruiz territory. Until he actually fights and beats someone in that region he doesn't deserve to be any higher.
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    And Wilder lost both times. Joshua's beaten Wlad. Wilder's never beaten anyone that good.

    Joshua would starch Wilder. Not a hard fight to predict.
     
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  5. RB1702

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    Wilder would be lucky to make it past 5 rounds against AJ with that terrible defence and weak chin of his.
     
  6. Aussie Invader

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    coming within a whisker of stopping fury in the first fight, which i thought fury should have won on the cards, served notice what we already knew about his punching power.
    sure, it was an out of shape fury, but AJ couldnt make the wilder fight remember.
     
  7. Aussie Invader

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    let's hope we see it happen at some point.
    remember, wilder seems to stand up to punishment pretty well, while AJ not so much.
     
  8. RB1702

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    AJ took Wlad’s best shots in rounds 5 and 6. Left hooks straight rights for days and kept on coming. Wilder on the other hand legs have gone after a few pillowfists from Fury and a gassed out Ortiz who made an arse of it an didn't connect well enough. Wilder would have been put in a coma from a straight right from Wlad and it’s so obvious since Wlad did spark him in sparring with head gear and more padded gloves hahaha. The little bi*ch was afraid to fight Wlad because of that sparring haha.
     
  9. MR6666

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    Interesting you form that opinion of Wilder when Barry Hearns is on record stating that the offer to fight AJ from Wilder was indeed real, You know the one where AJ is on video stating give me 50m and ill fight you ? But hence lost his pen....
     
  10. RB1702

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    Oh yes that 50 mil that was offered with no contract, no terms, sent over Instagram, refusal of a meeting. Brilliant. Haha Wilder rejected 100 mil plus pal.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly.

    But Joshua has talked a lot about fighting both of them, when he was spending a year trying to get a win over Andy Ruiz and another year waiting around to fight Pulev.

    Apparently, talking about fighting them is as good as beating both. (LOL)
     
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  12. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't get points for avoiding the top heavyweights. Wilder hasn't been in the ring with any of the top heavyweights so why are you ranking him higher than them. Realistically Wilder probably beats Povektin, Whyte, Parker, and Ruiz. But until he does I'm not giving him much credit. AJ is the clear #2 because hes fought and beat the most top HWs. He also revenged his only loss in a clear victory.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you get points for fighting THE TOP HEAVYWEIGHT? (Jesus).

    The top heavyweight in the world is Tyson Fury. Wilder defended his WBC title against Fury twice and is challenging him for the title at the end of the year.

    You can't fight anyone better than the best heavyweight in the world, right?

    So how many points does Wilder get for defending his title twice against Fury? How many points does Wilder get for challenging Fury for the WBC belt/World Title at the end of the year?

    Please enlighten me.

    And when did ANYONE you mentioned sign to fight the best heavyweight in the world THREE TIMES? Because I don't recall anyone you mentioned EVER doing that.

    Bashing Wilder because he didn't fight the sixth best heavyweight or the seventh best heavyweight when he was fighting THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHT twice in world title fights and will fight him a third time for the world title when he next steps in the ring is assinine.

    There is NO ONE better than Tyson Fury right now. No one.

    Wilder defended his title against Fury two times. HOW MANY POINTS DOES HE GET for that? Where is this "points" system so we can all keep track?

    Joshua didn't fight Fury. Povetkin and Whyte never even had actual belts to defend and never fought Fury. And Ruiz couldn't defend himself against a footlong sub.

    How many points does Wilder get next for fighting the best heavyweight and how many points does Joshua get next for fighting the 10th best heavyweight in Pulev?

    How many points did Wilder lose for getting knocked out against the best heavyweight in the world (who was also the favorite) and how many points does Joshua lose for getting knocked out against a guy who wasn't ranked at all in one of the biggest upsets in history?

    Where is the chart?

    Honestly, you guys are being ridiculous.
     
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  14. seansanashee

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    If Joshua got his tactics wrong in the 1st fight, Ruiz got his training/ nutrition wrong for the 2nd fight. You can't have an excuse for Joshua losing and not have one for Ruiz losing.
     
  15. bruce_keyes

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    And Ruiz beat AJ.... so where does that put Ruiz? bottom line Povetkin would have KO'd anyone in the top 10 with that uppercut. He almost knocked down AJ in the first round with a sneaky uppercut. remember