Fury the new Valuev?

Fury would win every round against Valuev if they fought. Crazy difference in skill level, Valuev would get beaten up.

Remember Fury beat Klitschko in his backyard.

 

The fastest way to turn someone into an owl 30 years from now........ ask them about Tyson Fury. Their response will be, who, who. Then promptly bring up Mike Tyson. LOL

 

I get that a lot of people hate Fury but to try and make out he was never any good is just ridiculous.

 

"but never built a solid career off his skills."

Compared to who? He's one of the wealthiest current boxers. His wins over Klitschko and Wilder trumps any other active heavyweight's resume.

 

He's better than Valuev.

 

Fury is not in the same universe than Valuev.

I like Valuev, but it's just logical Fury is in a another dimension of skills.

 

Fury would win every round playing pittypatty for points - yes, easily...
But that wouldn't beat anyone up unless they had the glassiest of glass jaws - and Valuev was packing a tungsten mandible.

"Kronk" Fury is more aggressive and also much sloppier and easier to hit... That approach is fine for beating up shopworn (Whyte - Pov's perfect counter KO would ruin anyone, and Whyte had already been in wars) and/or technically limited (Wilder) type fighters.

Put that Fury in with a super durable guy who can eat shots and hurt him in return and you'd get a war - which Fury may or may not win.


Realistically, Fury would've got on his bike and won an easy UD against Valuev - he wouldn't have tried to really hurt him or risked coming in heavy when his best path to victory would so clearly be on points.

And yes, Fury beat Klitschko in his own back yard - a clear win, but a stinker of a fight and Fury stank the place up even more than Wlad (tactically and deliberately)... But he didn't beat Wlad up, there's a difference.

 

Nah. For one thing, at least Fury has been in at least some exciting fights and he didn't need a blatant robbery over a 46 year old man to retain his title. I mean yeah you can argue he should've lost to Ngannou, hell I'm one of those people that thinks that, but at least that fight was close. True, a close fight against someone making their debut prolly won't be looked back on that well, but Valuev-Holyfield had one clear winner and it wasn't the guy who got his hand raised. I can't say with absolute certainty what the discourse about Fury will be in twenty years, but those things alone are enough to keep him in a better light than Valuev.

Only thing they share is that they're comparatively large guys even in an era of big guys, with low punching power relative to their size. And in a month they'll both be guys who lost their belts to former cruiserweights.

I don't care if it ends up not aging well, I wasn't gonna resist saying that last bit

 

Klitschko, yes.

Wilder's a hypejob - he was probably nothing more than fringe contender level when all's said and done.
Dude made a great living from a limited career with limited risk taking, but he's not someone you'd want to hang serious claims to having a top resume on.

For the return to look legit for posterity, Fury needs to beat Usyk - and not duck the rematch.

 

What do you consider a solid career? There's thousands of active professional boxers all over the world, Fury would be in the top 3 from a recognisable and wealth perspective.

Joshua has more of a 'deeper' resume than Fury, he's fought good opposition consistently. I don't consider it to be better than Fury's though, the wins of Klitschko (the manner of the win) and Wilder x2 I hold in higher regard.

 

Shut up.

 

Wilder is no hype job.

I've been told by people in the know that he had an injured right hand going into the Parker fight, hence why he barely threw it during the contest.