Fury threatens to vacate WBC belt!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mark ant, Dec 20, 2021.

  1. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 21, 2019
    Why would anyone duck whyte ffs
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Nonsenses. Why in the blue hell will Usyk or AJ chase Fury if he doesn't bring belt to the table? Both look to become undisputed.
    If Fury drops the belt this is the stupidest move in the history of this sport.

    Also don't make me laugh, no one will give him 50-50 if he bring WBC belt to the table.
    If you think Hearn will give him 50% you are out of your mind.

    Saying all that, i'm like 99,99% sure that Fury won't drop the belt, cause he realize all that. He also understand that this will be view as a pure duck and he will be mocked for it by pretty much all.
    There is no sense to drop the belt.
    He will make plenty of money against Whyte, and he is the biggest fight for him outside of AJ/Usyk. And Whyte - Fury will be a huge fight in UK.
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Agree with the first part, but again you are talking nonsenses on the second one.
    I even do the work for all of you and posted the WBC rules, so read them, i'm getting tired of correcting you .....

    Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification fees) shall be divided as follows:
    a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
    b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.

    c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion, in the event of such a bout.
    d) Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%

  4. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli Active Member Full Member

    Sep 3, 2019
    What’s nonsense?

    you’ve quoted the rules there yourself where it states they can modify the interim mandatory 45% split if there’s a majority vote?
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Whyte is a millionaire and a lot of $, so he most probably want the title at this stage, so if you think him and Hearn will go down in their demand, you talking rubbish.
    This ain't going to happen.
    The only thing Hearn and Whyte may agree is a rematch clause, cause currently Hearn is pointing that Whyte doesn't want one.

    There is exactly zero chances that Whyte will drop his demands, cause Fury is threaten to drop the belt. This will be perfect for Whyte.

    Did you even check Whyte numbers? Pretty much most of his fights are doing very good PPV/Buys and having in mind no title are on the line.
    700k vs Joshua
    571k vs Parker
    532k vs Chisora
    368k vs Rivas
    337k vs Povetkin 1
    197k vs Povetkin 2

    Neither of this is for a title fight. So he is doing very good numbers. The fight with Fury will be huge in UK.

    I don't see Hearn/Whyte move from their demand. Whyte is very well paid athlete and most probably Hearn and him will welcome if Fury vacates the title big time.

    You understand that this is a perfect move for Hearn. Then he had a plan B if Joshua loses against Usyk.
    Even if AJ loses again he may very well do AJ - Whyte 2 and it's a title fight, that will bring tons of cash to both again.

    He may also make Whyte - Usyk, and hoping for Whyte to beat Usyk and then make Whyte - AJ 2. And that will be undisputed fight - big money.

    You understand now why you haven't been so far from the reality?
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    The split is 55-45. This ain't a special case. Did you even heard anything from WBC that they will use this fight as a special case and will modify the split? Did you even believe it, when Whyte was suing them ? There is zero chance they will risk anything.
    Also look my comment above, Whyte is doing pretty good numbers, so Fury has no ground at all.

    Their only move is to threaten to drop the belt, so Hearn/Whyte lower their expectation, but again read the previous comment and you will understand why Hearn/Whyte won't do it.

    So whether people like it or not, if Fury want to keep his title, the split will be 55-45.
  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Fury is not a fighting champion. He may be the best, but he sure is hesitant to get in the ring and prove it. I hope he does vacate the WBC belt. We get Fury out of the belt picture and unification happens more easily (Unless Wilder gets a hold of the WBC again, then unification is never happening until Wilder is ready to retire)
  8. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 20, 2020
    To be fair what that shows is how badly Whyte's PPV stock has dropped...
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  9. senpai

    senpai Well-Known Member Full Member

    May 18, 2021
    If Fury vacates that WBC belt he will still have Ring and Lineal Imaginary belt.

    He will still talk BS about it. Just watch.
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    I disagree. A lot of factors vary and influence the sales.
    Whether people like it or not, Whyte is popular in UK and pretty much keep all the cards.
    For them this is winnable situation. Obviously Fury team is in a bad one.
  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    well said, understood. I hope your right!
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  12. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli Active Member Full Member

    Sep 3, 2019
    Even Eddie Hearn doesn’t think Whyte is worth 45% this is what he said last month:

    “The interim champion can receive up to 45 percent of a purse split and I believe it should be towards those kinds of levels.“

    Notice the wording “towards” those kinds of levels.

    Fury lowballed with an 80/20 offer. Hearn counters with 45%.

    It’s just negotiation tactics when in reality they should be meeting somewhere in the middle.

    And I don’t see why the governing body would mention anything about special case right now which may influence negotiations while they are still underway.

    Whyte isn’t exactly mister popular at the WBC so if they can screw him they will.
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Bro did you even understand what rules means?
    Neither Hearn, neither Whyte is an idiot. This ain't a special case get it. The special case is when the so call interim is a complete nobody, and Whyte whether people like it or not, it's not a no name.
    He is a well known name in the HW division that fought almost anybody in it.

    And there is nothing to negotiate when there is a fixed split. This is a threating tactics from Fury team, that Hearn welcome, and i explained it in the above post, so won't do it again.
    Anyway i will make it short for you, Hearn/Whyte will be happy if Fury drops the belt, actually they will probably be happier with this case. Also they will be happy with 55-45 split.

    There is a zero need for Whyte to drop his 45% split.
    Hearn/Whyte have all the cards, you are trying to make it like this ain't the case, when in reality is.

    This Hearn interview quote is old.
    Go check his latest. He/Whyte is happy with Fury duck and drop the title. Hearn also is playing hard ball with the rematch clause. They don't want one, unless Fury pay extra for it.

    WBC can't screw Whyte, cause he will sue them again. They most likely will lost the case again.
    Again there isn't a case for a "special case" here in order for the Champ to get more.
    If Fury is happy with 55 - 45 the fight will go on, if he is not, he will drop the belt, be the stupidest person in the world and go on tomato can fighting.
  14. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli Active Member Full Member

    Sep 3, 2019
    Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up about it you’re going to have egg on your face if the fight goes ahead and Whyte ends up with less than 45%.

    Suppose we’ll just have to wait and see.
  15. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

    Jun 17, 2021
    Yeah and if the fight gets made will you people shut the **** up about 'Fury ducking fights' or some bollocks.

    No, you'll just wait to jump down the throat about some other bull****.