Fury to retire in 2024

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    It's interesting to observe that others are now noticing the decline of the once larger-than-life figure who now seems to be spiralling downwards. He recently released a Netflix documentary, seemingly believing he could conquer the world without facing Usyk, but it's become abundantly clear that he was mistaken.

    His attempts to publicly negotiate and embarrass Usyk only exposed his own shortcomings, and now, a year later, the man who was once celebrated as the conqueror of "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PUNCHER" has become the laughingstock of heavyweight boxing.

    This dramatic fall from grace, following a remarkable comeback, is arguably one of the most striking in modern boxing history.

    He's made headlines for all the wrong reasons, with reports of substance abuse and ill-advised attempts to exploit the Ukrainian war to demean Usyk. These actions have done significant damage to his public image, especially among casual boxing fans.

    His diva-like negotiations were played out in the public eye, as he flaunted his "A-side" arrogance, hoping to maintain his status as the division's top dog. However, this strategy backfired spectacularly when Usyk accepted the challenge and called his bluff. Those who once had question marks on Usyk, now see him as a 'real fighting man'. Win or not, he isn't afraid of Fury and following his whitewash of Joshua, it raises the question - could he actually beat Fury? Hell, if Fury doesn't want to fight him, maybe he can.

    Fury failed to anticipate the impact of Usyk's backbone, and he only exacerbated the situation by making an outrageous offer he knew Usyk would reject. Usyk beat him at his own game, winning over fans and establishing himself as the embodiment of a true fighter—something Fury had always preached.

    In a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, Fury announced his willingness to fight Joshua, Usyk, Wilder, and even McKean. But the backlash on social media was brutal, with people sharing old videos of Fury acknowledging Usyk's skills and highlighting his past diva antics in failed negotiations. Fury became a meme and was left fuming.

    Fast forward a few months, and Fury teased a "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT." Fans hoped it would involve a fight against Usyk or AJ to regain their interest, but instead, he announced a bout against a non-boxer and UFC fighter making their debut. The public's reception was abysmal, with neither the boxing nor the UFC community showing much enthusiasm. Hell, even the biggest Fury fans stacked all their chips in the hopes that Fury was playing the marketing card and the 4 man eliminator was already signed behind closed doors. Unfortunately for them, that wasn't the case. Usyk was honest throughout and Fury had lied through his teeth. Given his current physique it's clear that he isn't preparing for a follow up fight any time soon - especially not a world title fight.

    In the last 4 hours, YouTube data revealed that Fury has fallen off - dramatically. The search interest in "Fury vs. Ngannou" was disappointingly low, with a search volume score of 42/100. To put it in perspective, Fury vs. Wilder 2 had a score of 81/100, nearly double. It's clear that the public has grown tired of Fury's antics, and his stock has taken a significant hit. For further validation, Crawford vs. Spence was 77/100 and Paul vs Fury was 80 (pretty much the same as Fury/Wilder 2, which makes sense given their PPV numbers).

    Now, let's reflect on Fury himself. He has a well-documented history of mental health issues and has been open about his struggles and journey to recovery. He made an inspiring comeback, but his recent actions have tarnished his image. If he's too afraid to face a "middleweight," how can he be considered the best in the world? His PR efforts surrounding mental health and his victory over Wilder have been overshadowed. The funny guy who used to troll "wannabe tough guys" has lost his charm, with his own trainer and family members accusing him of dishonesty in the public eye. Brushing off the respect for his social media image and somewhat throwing 'the man' under the bus.

    During the time of negotiations, it was evident that Fury was using drugs and living a party lifestyle, which is a stark contrast to his previous commitment to sobriety. If you go back to Joseph Parker's last 2 fights, look at the interviews with Fury. He is coked off his mind. Not only that but look at today's face off. His current physical appearance further supports a troubling regression from his previous form.

    In conclusion, it's time to appreciate Fury for what he once was because, sadly, he seems to be done. Forget a fight with Usyk, forget a fight with Joshua. His fall from grace is undeniable, and it's safe to say that his glory days are behind him.

    Pull the posters down @miniq , put the socks back in the drawer. He's done.

    Usyk, KO1.
     
  2. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    He should be given two months after the ngannou fight to defend his belt against Usyk or surrender it. Like Bowe basically did with Lewis. Simple as that.

    A nice streamed WBC belt ceremony can be held for the new champion Usyk. IF Fury doesn’t defend. And by the way he’s talking… he won’t.
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand your criticisms completely, but sadly, I suspect you might be jumping the gun:
    First, I suspect a lot of casual fans had no idea about the Fury v Usyk negotiations, and just heard the spin being put out by Warren on TalkSport radio.
    Second, I don't think the tracking data on this exhibition means much until the event gets closer.
    Third, regarding his lack of sobriety. You might not realise this, but the UK love their casual drug use. So, I don't think Fury's target audience will care all that much about how off his face he gets.
    Other than that, you are bang on.
     
  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Fury was conceived in Houston.
     
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  5. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury doesn't care anything about what's in your post, or even the fact that you spent the time posting it.

    You're counting 'likes' on a message board and he's counting millions.
     
  6. MidniteProwler

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    His rig looks shocking at the first face off with Francis today
     
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  7. Braindamage

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    Drugs, alcohol, obesity all fall way short compared to how Wilder has destroyed Fury's career. The man just wants soft touches from here on out. Did Fury really win? Booooooooomb Squaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. TA DISDAY!!!!! LOL
     
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  8. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Given the fact that he's retained the belt to fight a sideshow, it's incredibly unlikely. Hell, if he fights Jones, watch them glorify it to retain his status or better yet, make him a special-jimmy belt for the occasion.

    I get where you're coming from about how things look, but remember I'm on the other side of the world. We've got a pretty decent boxing fan base here, but most folks tend to only follow the big names. Everyone around here knows that Fury isn't too keen on going up against Usyk, and that's not doing his reputation any favours. Plus, his connection to Joseph Parker keeps putting him in the local news, like "Tyson Fury giving props to Joseph Parker's performance" – they show a cut shot of Fury looking tweaking away, sweating buckets, eyes like golf balls and fidgeting like he can see Usyks gapped teeth in the crowd. I get it, data can simply be numbers...nothing more. But it does directly correlate and support the pay-per-view numbers for recent events. Unless Fury pulls another mental health crisis (which could happen), it's doubtful the event will be as big as he thinks (or those paying his fee). I mean, Fury's last fight against Chisora didn't even crack 300k viewers, live gate was great, which is to be expected with a hometown crowd for both fighters. That's also backed by the Whyte fight which barely scraped past 350k. Compare that to Wilder 3, and it's laughable. Given that old mate, Fish Eyes avoided the question like a bad smell, it further validates the plummet in numbers...which, in reality shouldn't be surprising given the opposition.

    Can confirm, the Gypsy Gopher was conceived in Houston. Hiding away in his little hidey hole from the gap-toothed wabbit.

    You might want to take another look at my previous message. The number of 'likes' isn't the issue here. Pay-per-view (PPV) sales and paychecks are directly tied to the marketing investment. How much they spend on marketing is determined by the projected fight numbers. If Fury keeps going up against second-tier opponents or worse, those numbers will keep on dropping.

    As long as they're dropping, his reputation as the 'top dog' comes into question, and those millions he's counting on will keep getting smaller. Remember when he said he'd make 200 million for a fight against Usyk? How did that turn out? Taking on Chisora, Whyte, and a UFC fighter doesn't bring in the same cash or the Hall of Fame status he's so desperately after.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, but you misinterpreted what I'm saying. The projections for Fury's career are on a downward spiral. Yes, he's taking soft touches and getting paid well for it. But that will stop. The Saudis already showed little interest in him after the Usyk debarkle. If he wants the HOF status he seeks, then he needs Usyk or Joshua - if he chooses soft touches for the rest of his career, the Usyk bandwagoners were right. He's a ducking coward.

    "I'm in training every day, Usyk can get it any day of the week"

    :squezer:

    I dunno, that bridge on the highway that he was pointing his Ferrari at is still undefeated. TWO DIS DAE!!!!!!

    :eek:
     
  9. thehook13

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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury should just go away.
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

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    It's bizarre what's happened to Fury, his fall from grace in the eyes of the boxing fans has been dramatic. But then again it's not like this hasn't happened before. He beat Wlad and was lauded for all of about 5 mins and then he went on a homophobic and sexist rant which overshadowed his win. Then unbeknownst to the world he was suspended by UKAD, lied to everyone about that and so simply ducked a rematch with Wlad pretending he just didn't want to fight. When in reality the suspension and the feeling of climbing the mountain and having nothing else to aim for seemed to mentally crush him, leaving him depressed and turning to drugs.

    It seems the same thing has happened after the Wilder wins. He finally gained the respect and love of the boxing fans, something that had previously eluded him and it seems to have again sent him into a spiral of depression and drug abuse and of course his handlers don't want him anywhere near anyone who poses a risk right now, hence the fight with an MMA fighter.

    It's like the WBC title is cursed since Vitali relinquished it. First Stiverne who was decent enough, but winning the belt he lost all interest in training, lost to Wilder and ended up in hospital with Rhabdomyolysis. Wilder immediately after winning the belt, refused to fight Wlad in a unification fight and spent the next few years redefining what it meant to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find opponents to defend against, until a returning Fury dethroned him and now we have another embarrassing reign under Fury.
     
  12. Mr Stagger Lee

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    Fury shouldn't be counting likes on anything. If he's as good as he likes to think he is then he should be using his, probably limited mathematical knowledge, to work out how to become undisputed. Not much counting involved for that but he really doesn't seem to be able to come up with the answer of 1+1=undisputed.
     
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  13. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are a lot of Fury fans here, but what do they have from his millions, do they sleep more soundly when Fury makes a few million? Fury only looks out for himself and doesn't care about anyone else...
     
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  14. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Bang on the money. Great post :thumbsup:
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    Fury's making money now and still has a measure of the public's goodwill on his side, but he's right on the edge of that slippery slope.

    If you think his fall from grace is dramatic now, just wait till a year down the line.
     
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