Fury to retire in 2024

BubblesUK · Sep 9, 2023

markclow said: ↑

He is certainly a lazy gluttonous person so I guess he may not.

I would like to see it happen as I think AJ at this stage will beat him, and I would love to see Fury get chinned.
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You could well be right... but I don't even particularly care who wins, I just want the best fights possible to get made and for fighters to have enough good names on their resumes to show how good they actually are (or aren't).

That's one of the really frustrating things about Fury - he looks like he might actually be the real deal, but he refuses to prove it, which makes me question whether he really is or not... unlike many on here, it seems, I'm not comfortable with blindly trusting what my eyes tell me without the opposing fighter/s being of a calibre that it actually means something.

I have a particular issue with fighters who claim to be the best of the best whilst having dirt poor resumes - especially when there are armies of fans providing apologetics for them and insisting they're "real" anyway.

fencik45 · Sep 9, 2023

kiwi_boxer said: ↑

It's interesting to observe that others are now noticing the decline of the once larger-than-life figure who now seems to be spiralling downwards. He recently released a Netflix documentary, seemingly believing he could conquer the world without facing Usyk, but it's become abundantly clear that he was mistaken.

His attempts to publicly negotiate and embarrass Usyk only exposed his own shortcomings, and now, a year later, the man who was once celebrated as the conqueror of "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PUNCHER" has become the laughingstock of heavyweight boxing.

This dramatic fall from grace, following a remarkable comeback, is arguably one of the most striking in modern boxing history.

He's made headlines for all the wrong reasons, with reports of substance abuse and ill-advised attempts to exploit the Ukrainian war to demean Usyk. These actions have done significant damage to his public image, especially among casual boxing fans.

His diva-like negotiations were played out in the public eye, as he flaunted his "A-side" arrogance, hoping to maintain his status as the division's top dog. However, this strategy backfired spectacularly when Usyk accepted the challenge and called his bluff. Those who once had question marks on Usyk, now see him as a 'real fighting man'. Win or not, he isn't afraid of Fury and following his whitewash of Joshua, it raises the question - could he actually beat Fury? Hell, if Fury doesn't want to fight him, maybe he can.

Fury failed to anticipate the impact of Usyk's backbone, and he only exacerbated the situation by making an outrageous offer he knew Usyk would reject. Usyk beat him at his own game, winning over fans and establishing himself as the embodiment of a true fighter—something Fury had always preached.

In a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, Fury announced his willingness to fight Joshua, Usyk, Wilder, and even McKean. But the backlash on social media was brutal, with people sharing old videos of Fury acknowledging Usyk's skills and highlighting his past diva antics in failed negotiations. Fury became a meme and was left fuming.

Fast forward a few months, and Fury teased a "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT." Fans hoped it would involve a fight against Usyk or AJ to regain their interest, but instead, he announced a bout against a non-boxer and UFC fighter making their debut. The public's reception was abysmal, with neither the boxing nor the UFC community showing much enthusiasm. Hell, even the biggest Fury fans stacked all their chips in the hopes that Fury was playing the marketing card and the 4 man eliminator was already signed behind closed doors. Unfortunately for them, that wasn't the case. Usyk was honest throughout and Fury had lied through his teeth. Given his current physique it's clear that he isn't preparing for a follow up fight any time soon - especially not a world title fight.

In the last 4 hours, YouTube data revealed that Fury has fallen off - dramatically. The search interest in "Fury vs. Ngannou" was disappointingly low, with a search volume score of 42/100. To put it in perspective, Fury vs. Wilder 2 had a score of 81/100, nearly double. It's clear that the public has grown tired of Fury's antics, and his stock has taken a significant hit. For further validation, Crawford vs. Spence was 77/100 and Paul vs Fury was 80 (pretty much the same as Fury/Wilder 2, which makes sense given their PPV numbers).

Now, let's reflect on Fury himself. He has a well-documented history of mental health issues and has been open about his struggles and journey to recovery. He made an inspiring comeback, but his recent actions have tarnished his image. If he's too afraid to face a "middleweight," how can he be considered the best in the world? His PR efforts surrounding mental health and his victory over Wilder have been overshadowed. The funny guy who used to troll "wannabe tough guys" has lost his charm, with his own trainer and family members accusing him of dishonesty in the public eye. Brushing off the respect for his social media image and somewhat throwing 'the man' under the bus.

During the time of negotiations, it was evident that Fury was using drugs and living a party lifestyle, which is a stark contrast to his previous commitment to sobriety. If you go back to Joseph Parker's last 2 fights, look at the interviews with Fury. He is coked off his mind. Not only that but look at today's face off. His current physical appearance further supports a troubling regression from his previous form.

In conclusion, it's time to appreciate Fury for what he once was because, sadly, he seems to be done. Forget a fight with Usyk, forget a fight with Joshua. His fall from grace is undeniable, and it's safe to say that his glory days are behind him.

Pull the posters down @miniq , put the socks back in the drawer. He's done.

Usyk, KO1.
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Fury has always been nothing but an attention ***** clown.

kiwi_boxer · Oct 28, 2023

kiwi_boxer said: ↑

It's interesting to observe that others are now noticing the decline of the once larger-than-life figure who now seems to be spiralling downwards. He recently released a Netflix documentary, seemingly believing he could conquer the world without facing Usyk, but it's become abundantly clear that he was mistaken.

His attempts to publicly negotiate and embarrass Usyk only exposed his own shortcomings, and now, a year later, the man who was once celebrated as the conqueror of "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PUNCHER" has become the laughingstock of heavyweight boxing.

This dramatic fall from grace, following a remarkable comeback, is arguably one of the most striking in modern boxing history.

He's made headlines for all the wrong reasons, with reports of substance abuse and ill-advised attempts to exploit the Ukrainian war to demean Usyk. These actions have done significant damage to his public image, especially among casual boxing fans.

His diva-like negotiations were played out in the public eye, as he flaunted his "A-side" arrogance, hoping to maintain his status as the division's top dog. However, this strategy backfired spectacularly when Usyk accepted the challenge and called his bluff. Those who once had question marks on Usyk, now see him as a 'real fighting man'. Win or not, he isn't afraid of Fury and following his whitewash of Joshua, it raises the question - could he actually beat Fury? Hell, if Fury doesn't want to fight him, maybe he can.

Fury failed to anticipate the impact of Usyk's backbone, and he only exacerbated the situation by making an outrageous offer he knew Usyk would reject. Usyk beat him at his own game, winning over fans and establishing himself as the embodiment of a true fighter—something Fury had always preached.

In a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, Fury announced his willingness to fight Joshua, Usyk, Wilder, and even McKean. But the backlash on social media was brutal, with people sharing old videos of Fury acknowledging Usyk's skills and highlighting his past diva antics in failed negotiations. Fury became a meme and was left fuming.

Fast forward a few months, and Fury teased a "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT." Fans hoped it would involve a fight against Usyk or AJ to regain their interest, but instead, he announced a bout against a non-boxer and UFC fighter making their debut. The public's reception was abysmal, with neither the boxing nor the UFC community showing much enthusiasm. Hell, even the biggest Fury fans stacked all their chips in the hopes that Fury was playing the marketing card and the 4 man eliminator was already signed behind closed doors. Unfortunately for them, that wasn't the case. Usyk was honest throughout and Fury had lied through his teeth. Given his current physique it's clear that he isn't preparing for a follow up fight any time soon - especially not a world title fight.

In the last 4 hours, YouTube data revealed that Fury has fallen off - dramatically. The search interest in "Fury vs. Ngannou" was disappointingly low, with a search volume score of 42/100. To put it in perspective, Fury vs. Wilder 2 had a score of 81/100, nearly double. It's clear that the public has grown tired of Fury's antics, and his stock has taken a significant hit. For further validation, Crawford vs. Spence was 77/100 and Paul vs Fury was 80 (pretty much the same as Fury/Wilder 2, which makes sense given their PPV numbers).

Now, let's reflect on Fury himself. He has a well-documented history of mental health issues and has been open about his struggles and journey to recovery. He made an inspiring comeback, but his recent actions have tarnished his image. If he's too afraid to face a "middleweight," how can he be considered the best in the world? His PR efforts surrounding mental health and his victory over Wilder have been overshadowed. The funny guy who used to troll "wannabe tough guys" has lost his charm, with his own trainer and family members accusing him of dishonesty in the public eye. Brushing off the respect for his social media image and somewhat throwing 'the man' under the bus.

During the time of negotiations, it was evident that Fury was using drugs and living a party lifestyle, which is a stark contrast to his previous commitment to sobriety. If you go back to Joseph Parker's last 2 fights, look at the interviews with Fury. He is coked off his mind. Not only that but look at today's face off. His current physical appearance further supports a troubling regression from his previous form.

In conclusion, it's time to appreciate Fury for what he once was because, sadly, he seems to be done. Forget a fight with Usyk, forget a fight with Joshua. His fall from grace is undeniable, and it's safe to say that his glory days are behind him.

Pull the posters down @miniq , put the socks back in the drawer. He's done.

Usyk, KO1.
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@miniq @Redbeard7

Ya boy has been back on the booger sugar.

MidniteProwler · Oct 28, 2023

kiwi_boxer said: ↑

It's interesting to observe that others are now noticing the decline of the once larger-than-life figure who now seems to be spiralling downwards. He recently released a Netflix documentary, seemingly believing he could conquer the world without facing Usyk, but it's become abundantly clear that he was mistaken.

His attempts to publicly negotiate and embarrass Usyk only exposed his own shortcomings, and now, a year later, the man who was once celebrated as the conqueror of "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PUNCHER" has become the laughingstock of heavyweight boxing.

This dramatic fall from grace, following a remarkable comeback, is arguably one of the most striking in modern boxing history.

He's made headlines for all the wrong reasons, with reports of substance abuse and ill-advised attempts to exploit the Ukrainian war to demean Usyk. These actions have done significant damage to his public image, especially among casual boxing fans.

His diva-like negotiations were played out in the public eye, as he flaunted his "A-side" arrogance, hoping to maintain his status as the division's top dog. However, this strategy backfired spectacularly when Usyk accepted the challenge and called his bluff. Those who once had question marks on Usyk, now see him as a 'real fighting man'. Win or not, he isn't afraid of Fury and following his whitewash of Joshua, it raises the question - could he actually beat Fury? Hell, if Fury doesn't want to fight him, maybe he can.

Fury failed to anticipate the impact of Usyk's backbone, and he only exacerbated the situation by making an outrageous offer he knew Usyk would reject. Usyk beat him at his own game, winning over fans and establishing himself as the embodiment of a true fighter—something Fury had always preached.

In a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, Fury announced his willingness to fight Joshua, Usyk, Wilder, and even McKean. But the backlash on social media was brutal, with people sharing old videos of Fury acknowledging Usyk's skills and highlighting his past diva antics in failed negotiations. Fury became a meme and was left fuming.

Fast forward a few months, and Fury teased a "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT." Fans hoped it would involve a fight against Usyk or AJ to regain their interest, but instead, he announced a bout against a non-boxer and UFC fighter making their debut. The public's reception was abysmal, with neither the boxing nor the UFC community showing much enthusiasm. Hell, even the biggest Fury fans stacked all their chips in the hopes that Fury was playing the marketing card and the 4 man eliminator was already signed behind closed doors. Unfortunately for them, that wasn't the case. Usyk was honest throughout and Fury had lied through his teeth. Given his current physique it's clear that he isn't preparing for a follow up fight any time soon - especially not a world title fight.

In the last 4 hours, YouTube data revealed that Fury has fallen off - dramatically. The search interest in "Fury vs. Ngannou" was disappointingly low, with a search volume score of 42/100. To put it in perspective, Fury vs. Wilder 2 had a score of 81/100, nearly double. It's clear that the public has grown tired of Fury's antics, and his stock has taken a significant hit. For further validation, Crawford vs. Spence was 77/100 and Paul vs Fury was 80 (pretty much the same as Fury/Wilder 2, which makes sense given their PPV numbers).

Now, let's reflect on Fury himself. He has a well-documented history of mental health issues and has been open about his struggles and journey to recovery. He made an inspiring comeback, but his recent actions have tarnished his image. If he's too afraid to face a "middleweight," how can he be considered the best in the world? His PR efforts surrounding mental health and his victory over Wilder have been overshadowed. The funny guy who used to troll "wannabe tough guys" has lost his charm, with his own trainer and family members accusing him of dishonesty in the public eye. Brushing off the respect for his social media image and somewhat throwing 'the man' under the bus.

During the time of negotiations, it was evident that Fury was using drugs and living a party lifestyle, which is a stark contrast to his previous commitment to sobriety. If you go back to Joseph Parker's last 2 fights, look at the interviews with Fury. He is coked off his mind. Not only that but look at today's face off. His current physical appearance further supports a troubling regression from his previous form.

In conclusion, it's time to appreciate Fury for what he once was because, sadly, he seems to be done. Forget a fight with Usyk, forget a fight with Joshua. His fall from grace is undeniable, and it's safe to say that his glory days are behind him.

Pull the posters down @miniq , put the socks back in the drawer. He's done.

Usyk, KO1.
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Agree with most of this and I am a Fury fan. As much as Fury might have been overrated he certainly was never as terrible as version we all saw today. The fame and success went to his head he thought he could phone it in against Francis who made him pay and embarrassed him. Fury has definitely been partying with drugs alcohol and eating like a slob. It has caught up to him. He usually looks fat and sloppy but today it looked like he had no muscle tone whatsoever in his arms shoulders and chest. Unless he can do something drastic he is finished.

NullaLexInk · Oct 28, 2023

Honestly, after tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if he retired again out of embarrassment. This guy got put down by an MMA fighter making his boxing debut, in front of a bunch of legends of the sport who had front row seats to this, and then went on to just squeak by with a decision after fighting in a way similar to what he's criticized AJ for.

I mean I hope he doesn't. I still wanna see him fight and lose to Usyk. I'm just saying a sudden retirement wouldn't be shocking in the slightest.

007 373 5963 · Oct 28, 2023

I have no doubt he'll retire... at least twice in 2024.

kiwi_boxer · Nov 2, 2023

kiwi_boxer said: ↑

It's interesting to observe that others are now noticing the decline of the once larger-than-life figure who now seems to be spiralling downwards. He recently released a Netflix documentary, seemingly believing he could conquer the world without facing Usyk, but it's become abundantly clear that he was mistaken.

His attempts to publicly negotiate and embarrass Usyk only exposed his own shortcomings, and now, a year later, the man who was once celebrated as the conqueror of "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PUNCHER" has become the laughingstock of heavyweight boxing.

This dramatic fall from grace, following a remarkable comeback, is arguably one of the most striking in modern boxing history.

He's made headlines for all the wrong reasons, with reports of substance abuse and ill-advised attempts to exploit the Ukrainian war to demean Usyk. These actions have done significant damage to his public image, especially among casual boxing fans.

His diva-like negotiations were played out in the public eye, as he flaunted his "A-side" arrogance, hoping to maintain his status as the division's top dog. However, this strategy backfired spectacularly when Usyk accepted the challenge and called his bluff. Those who once had question marks on Usyk, now see him as a 'real fighting man'. Win or not, he isn't afraid of Fury and following his whitewash of Joshua, it raises the question - could he actually beat Fury? Hell, if Fury doesn't want to fight him, maybe he can.

Fury failed to anticipate the impact of Usyk's backbone, and he only exacerbated the situation by making an outrageous offer he knew Usyk would reject. Usyk beat him at his own game, winning over fans and establishing himself as the embodiment of a true fighter—something Fury had always preached.

In a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, Fury announced his willingness to fight Joshua, Usyk, Wilder, and even McKean. But the backlash on social media was brutal, with people sharing old videos of Fury acknowledging Usyk's skills and highlighting his past diva antics in failed negotiations. Fury became a meme and was left fuming.

Fast forward a few months, and Fury teased a "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT." Fans hoped it would involve a fight against Usyk or AJ to regain their interest, but instead, he announced a bout against a non-boxer and UFC fighter making their debut. The public's reception was abysmal, with neither the boxing nor the UFC community showing much enthusiasm. Hell, even the biggest Fury fans stacked all their chips in the hopes that Fury was playing the marketing card and the 4 man eliminator was already signed behind closed doors. Unfortunately for them, that wasn't the case. Usyk was honest throughout and Fury had lied through his teeth. Given his current physique it's clear that he isn't preparing for a follow up fight any time soon - especially not a world title fight.

In the last 4 hours, YouTube data revealed that Fury has fallen off - dramatically. The search interest in "Fury vs. Ngannou" was disappointingly low, with a search volume score of 42/100. To put it in perspective, Fury vs. Wilder 2 had a score of 81/100, nearly double. It's clear that the public has grown tired of Fury's antics, and his stock has taken a significant hit. For further validation, Crawford vs. Spence was 77/100 and Paul vs Fury was 80 (pretty much the same as Fury/Wilder 2, which makes sense given their PPV numbers).

Now, let's reflect on Fury himself. He has a well-documented history of mental health issues and has been open about his struggles and journey to recovery. He made an inspiring comeback, but his recent actions have tarnished his image. If he's too afraid to face a "middleweight," how can he be considered the best in the world? His PR efforts surrounding mental health and his victory over Wilder have been overshadowed. The funny guy who used to troll "wannabe tough guys" has lost his charm, with his own trainer and family members accusing him of dishonesty in the public eye. Brushing off the respect for his social media image and somewhat throwing 'the man' under the bus.

During the time of negotiations, it was evident that Fury was using drugs and living a party lifestyle, which is a stark contrast to his previous commitment to sobriety. If you go back to Joseph Parker's last 2 fights, look at the interviews with Fury. He is coked off his mind. Not only that but look at today's face off. His current physical appearance further supports a troubling regression from his previous form.

In conclusion, it's time to appreciate Fury for what he once was because, sadly, he seems to be done. Forget a fight with Usyk, forget a fight with Joshua. His fall from grace is undeniable, and it's safe to say that his glory days are behind him.

Pull the posters down @miniq , put the socks back in the drawer. He's done.

Usyk, KO1.
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Finkel said: ↑

I understand your criticisms completely, but sadly, I suspect you might be jumping the gun:
First, I suspect a lot of casual fans had no idea about the Fury v Usyk negotiations, and just heard the spin being put out by Warren on TalkSport radio.
Second, I don't think the tracking data on this exhibition means much until the event gets closer.
Third, regarding his lack of sobriety. You might not realise this, but the UK love their casual drug use. So, I don't think Fury's target audience will care all that much about how off his face he gets.
Other than that, you are bang on.
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So, how’d those analytics go? Ol boy fumbled the bag and the world didn’t have a card in the world to tune in (to pay for it at least…)

It's Ovah said: ↑

If you think his fall from grace is dramatic now, just wait till a year down the line.
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kostya by ko said: ↑

The attention ***** thing is a bit lame without any recent actual sport related cred backing it up.
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I mean… I tried to tell you guys. There’s a formula to digital marketing and the build up had the making (and tell tale signs) of a terrible flop.

Reports are coming in that this was an almighty failure in terms of PPV buys.

God it’s good to see this cheating scumbag fail.

Komaster · Nov 2, 2023

Boxers have realised you get your name ip in lights then quickly do all the reality TV, YouTube fights and realease a single before no one cares anymore or you lose a fight. Earlier I'd be commercials, but today's guys are such lying, scummy, drug taking scumbags, no one wants them in their commercials.

NoChin · Nov 3, 2023

Good riddance.

Unbiased opinions please. What did he actually do in the heavyweight division besides the Wilder bouts? I don't follow the HW like the others so I literally know **** all apart from Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Usyk, Ruiz in terms of modern HW. I know a few others like Joseph Parker, Huni? Who is still on the way up. Then a couple others like Dylian Whyte ( Or Dylan ) and a few others that have several losses next to their name.

The point I'm making is, is he overrated? Or actually one of the legit great Heavyweights ever to lace up. Additionally the HW are shithouse compared to what we had during the 1990's to mid 2000's.

Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe etc then guys like Klitschko came in.

Rubber Glove Sandwich · Nov 3, 2023

JOKER said: ↑

Fury was conceived in Houston.
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Can someone explain the Houston gag around here? I wasn't around whenever that started

miniq · Nov 3, 2023

Both Fury & Usyk will retire in 2024

That's no secret

Mickc · Nov 3, 2023

CooperKupp said: ↑

He should be given two months after the ngannou fight to defend his belt against Usyk or surrender it. Like Bowe basically did with Lewis. Simple as that.

A nice streamed WBC belt ceremony can be held for the new champion Usyk. IF Fury doesn’t defend. And by the way he’s talking… he won’t.
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Surrender belt/belt ceremony/ wishful thinking gifting Usyk the belt lol.For a start Lewis was Bowes mandatory face him or be stripped so Bowe binned the belt.As for Usyk not only is he not Furys mandatory but he is not even ranked in the top 15 by the WBC,Wilder is the no1 WBC ranked Fighter and Joshua the no2 ranked fighter,however Joshua also has options with the WBO (Zhang) and IBF (Hrgovic) should the Undisputed winner retire .

NullaLexInk · Nov 3, 2023

Mickc said: ↑

Belt ceremony/ wishful thinking gifting Usyk the belt lol.For a start Lewis was Bowes mandatory face him or be stripped so Bowe binned the belt.As for Usyk not only is he not Furys mandatory but he is not even ranked in the top 15 by the WBC,Wilder is the no1 WBC ranked Fighter and Joshua the no2 ranked fighter,however Joshua also has options with the WBO (Zhang) and IBF (Hrgovic) should the Undisputed winner retire .
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That's because the organizations don't rank champions of other organizations, for some dumbass arbitrary reason. Fights where a champion has been fought with another vacant belt on the line have been done though, like AJ vs. Wlad and Canelo vs. Callum Smith. The WBC was even the vacant belt in question in the latter example, so it's doable but not something I'd hold my breath for in this case.

Even if Fury does drop the belt, which I doubt will happen at the moment, I think it's more likely we see a fight between two guys ranked by the WBC as is often the case. Wilder vs. AJ would be great and add more incentive to getting the fight done (not that there isn't plenty incentive anyways), but because this is boxing and us boxing fans usually ain't that lucky, I'm sure it's more likely it'll end up in the hands of someone who'll come up with a million reasons not to fight for undisputed

On The Money · Nov 3, 2023

Fury has been semi-retired since Wallin. Five fights in 50 months, the last of them was supposed to be a sparring session. He won't really be missed as we want active champions. I'd prefer he goes now. Usyk is a fighting man and can easily go to 40. We'll see.

Mickc · Nov 3, 2023

NullaLexInk said: ↑

That's because the organizations don't rank champions of other organizations, for some dumbass arbitrary reason. Fights where a champion has been fought with another vacant belt on the line have been done though, like AJ vs. Wlad and Canelo vs. Callum Smith. The WBC was even the vacant belt in question in the latter example, so it's doable but not something I'd hold my breath for in this case.

Even if Fury does drop the belt, which I doubt will happen at the moment, I think it's more likely we see a fight between two guys ranked by the WBC as is often the case. Wilder vs. AJ would be great and add more incentive to getting the fight done (not that there isn't plenty incentive anyways), but because this is boxing I'm sure it's more likely it'll end up in the hands of someone who'll come up with a million reasons not to fight for undisputed
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Yes Im aware the other sanctioning bodies dont rank opposing Champions.I did mention in my post that Wilder and Joshua are ranked the no1 and no2 by the WBC,merely pointing out that nobody is gifting Usyk a free belt no matter how much they wish it.Hearn will wait and see how the dust settles after Undisputed to see if the winner retires then look at his options,also be nice in the mean time to see the WBC to order a fight between Wilder and Joshua for the mandatory slot then see what Hearn has to say . No doubt should Fury win he won’t announce his retirement even if he plans to do so,then we will see what route Hearn/Joshua takes then .

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