I've yet to see anyone make a logical argument for why the Usyk that fought Fury is somehow lesser than the Usyk who beat Joshua twice. He gained more HW experience and is still clearly in his physical prime. I've watched Usyk for a long time and he looked the same as ever. The skills weren't there in Ruiz I to slow the fight down, adjust, and keep it at a distance. There were plenty of rounds between 3 and 7 where Joshua could've stalled to change the dynamic of the fight. He didn't know how to do that without getting countered, and took a huge loss. The Usyk fights showed a HUGE disparity in skill. The deck was stacked (remember Glen Feldman's scorecard?), and all Joshua had to do was put a few punches together. He looked clueless in there for 24 rounds against Usyk. Plan A didn't work, and he isn't good enough to switch to a plan B or C. It's a massive difference from Fury whose plan A didn't work and plan B DID work. Fury looked to be in control for a huge portion of the fight. His skills didn't let him down, but his chin did. Both fighters were saved by the bell, Fury's obviously was more dramatic. His ability to recuperate, box intelligently, and even win a round after that onslaught is a huge credit to him.
Its funny seeing people try using that as an excuse for almost losing to someones thats never had a single pro boxing match in their life lol. Newsflash, it doesnt matter. What matters is Fury couldnt outclass someone in their debut in the sport of boxing. This notion that it 'doesn't count' because Fury 'wasnt taking it serious' is embarrassing and childish. You shouldnt have to take it seriously to end up in a fight where a third of the world thought you lost. A light punching 40 year old retired Mayweather with glass hands didnt even spar in preparation for a bigger and borderline prime McGregor but at least got the job done. Using 'not taking it seriously' as an excuse against a smaller, older UFC fighter making their debut is shameless and embarrassing. Fury struggled against Ngannou. Your excuses as why dont erase that fact.
If bipolar Fury not training for an MMA fighter then looking bad doesn't matter, I'm not sure what would matter in the context of judging his performance. He should have seemingly easily won without training, but he didn't. I will never give a boxer credit for beating an MMA fighter (many on this forum seem all too happy to give a LOT of credit for it), and as such I'll never detract from them if they don't train for a circus show and look bad.
People keep yapping about Fury’s punch resistance being gone, based oh what I do not know. That left cross Usyk nailed him with would have put anyone one down. Fury once again recovered amazingly. I’d say him and Joshua is 50/50.
It's not Fury's fault Usyk let him off the hook, and despite all of Wilder's flaws he was pretty good at finishing everyone else off. I just don't see what AJ has that Fury hasn't already faced. He doesn't have the same power as Wilder and lacks the gas tank Usyk has. There might be competitive patches but Fury gets the UD.
I think youre underrating AJ by quite a bit and likely overrating Wilder but hey lets just cross our fingers we get to see it. We all can and likely will debate it all we like lol, thats the great thing about pre fight hype.... I just hope we get to find out.
I've always favoured Joshua due to Fury's movement and Joshua's weakness against movers. But Fury is prone to lapses in concentration and Joshua has the power and finishing skills to end the fight. I fully expect Fury to be hurt or even dropped at some point during the fight so this won't be an easy fight for Fury. But I think Fury will do enough to survive and win on points. But I wouldn't be shocked if Joshua won. This is a fight I hope happens, it's a huge fight regardless of how Fury does in the Usyk rematch.
This is the fight I want to see now at HW. Usyk-Fury was an exciting fight that swung a couple of times, but in the end Usyk was the comfortable winner for me and Fury's main chance in a rematch is that Usyk will be even worse done by the ref and the judges. So AJ-Fury now, when both have a bit left. AJ is still in his physical prime, although likely just at the end of it, and his confidence issues are seemingly behind him. Fury looked very good on Saturday, but he's not ever going to get to quite the same level of agility and mobility he had for Wlad, and bulking up and going head to head with AJ is the wrong strategy imo. He needs to box him and while I believe he'd have some success doing so, I have hard time seeing Joshua not catching him at some point and I just don't know if he survives that. He showed amazing recovery against Usyk, but will he still have it after that shellacking? So AJ by stoppage or decision after a few KDs for me.