Fury vs. Usyk being planned for Early next Year

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  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    No, mate. The fact is: Usyk signed the contract with the Saudis where the fight was originally scheduled, Fury didn't. He priced himself out, this was confirmed by Amer Abdallah. The specific words he used was: "one of the fighters demanded more money than what was intended as the prize pot for the whole event".

    Pop quiz question for you: if there are only two fighters involved in a boxing match and it was confirmed by multiple sources that Usyk had already signed, who could be this mysterious "other fighter"?

    From that point on, Fury kept moving the goalposts, hoping that eventually either one sanctioning body with a Usyk mandatory will intervene or Usyk's team will just have enough of his games while he can claim plausible deniability, stating "see, they are the ones walking away", gaslighting gullible casuals ( = you) into a false narrative. I don't even know where you get this idea but Fury did not sign any contracts. Not with the Saudis, not after. This was confirmed by Frank Warren too. Heck, this was one of his "arguments" to white wash Fury that they allegedly never received a contract to sign from Team Usyk. So if it was confirmed by the Saudis and his own team that Fury didn't sign with the Saudis and then Warren confirmed that allegedly Team Usyk didn't even send them a contract a sign, what contract are you talking about that Fury has supposedly signed?

    I don't know what you are smoking, but it's really not good for you.
     
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  2. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury came up with crazy money to price himself out of the fight, obstacles, weird deadlines, Usyk even accepted 70-30 cut and then you claim he ducked him? The guy has never ducked anyone and wants undisputed at cw and hw, why would he be the one ducking? There is a reason why everyone is annoyed with Fury's antics for over a year.
    He did the same bs with AJ onky to fight his favourite opponent Chisora again and now he is fighting a mma fighter.

    I follow this guy his whole career, was there in Dusseldorf when he beat Wlad, rooted for Fury during his comeback, applauded him for his mental health campaign but I will say when he is in the wrong. And ever since Wilder 2 he has been acting like a twat and is currently behaving like a coward regarding Usyk.
     
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  3. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is not scared of Usyk ffs. He's just milking his earning potential. A fight with Ngannou might earn him more than vs Usyk unfortunately.

    The fight will happen, maybe after Joshua as that also earns him more but what can you do.

    (I think Fury is an absolute scrote, but he ain't scared)
     
  4. MAD_PIGE0N

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    It is a fact they never proposed anything, while he is the main aiming for undisputed and holding (stalling) 4 belts at the time. As for the fight failing - the Saudis failed it for December 2023, as they do it for December 2024. But in 2023 Usyk also decided he's a family man and has injuries that disappeared in January 2024 when he was already in camp.
     
  5. Faz42

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    Google it, there's a video of fish eyes speaking with team uysk last week about what happened and they agree that team uysk didn't sign the contract that was sent and that team uysk have never made an offer to team Fury.

    The offer you are speaking about was from Saudi and was very informal. Fury believes he has a worth and let's be honest from the way they keep pushing the fights back he made the right choice to price himself out.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Lol, no. What a load of cobblers.

    The two fighters received two separate contracts. That's the norm with the Saudis. Usyk immediately signed his side of the deal and was ready to go. Fury on the other hand demanded more money than what was intended to be the schedule for the whole card - even though he was reportedly offered in the ball park of 90 million USD which would have been his biggest pay day ever by far anyway. He simply never wanted to face Usyk. Nobody walks away from the chance to become undisputed for a career high pay day, especially if the opponent is just a "middleweight" who'd be so easy to beat. Nobody.

    If you believe any narrative from Team Fury, then let's talk because I have a beautiful seaside apartment in Birmingham to sell you.
     
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  7. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Signing a contract you know is not a reasonable offer just so your opponent will decline it and you get to say "see, I tried to make the fight!" isn't a serious attempt at making the fight.

    Fury hasn't wanted the fight. Does he want it now, with Usyk aging? We'll see.

    Given his bouts with Cunningham and Wallin, I understand the reluctance.
     
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  8. 11player

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    Heard rumors the fight was 50/50 at 60m each last year.

    Then Fury demanded 150m. Signed the Chisora fight.

    Negotiations restarted for March 4th, Usyk was ok with 60m, Fury was offered 80m, but turned down. The date of April 29th was explored.

    Now Fury wants to fight at Wembley only, july 22nd is the date, demands a lowball deal of 70/30 in his favor, which Usyk surprisingly accepts, then the rematch clause Fury asked for prior is a problem.

    Early summer the December blockbuster Usyk vs Fury, Joshua vs Wilder, event is explored. Usyk reportedly acepts 50m and Fury is offered 90m. Still not good. Fury later announces the Ngannou mismatch.

    Now they go back into negotiations. Unless the Saudis got hold of Fury in the Ngannou deal for the Usyk fight it wont happen.

    Chisora said Fury is making 50m for Ngannou. Add that to 100m for Usyk and he gets the 150m he asked for. Very possible IMO.

    Unless the Saudis are willing to look stupid thats the deal they made. Fury probably makes 25m now and the rest of the 50m once he signs for Usyk, following Oktober 28th. It may be already signed, the whole thing.
     
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  9. Guerra

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    Fury is even worse of a coward cause he is trying to change the narrative that its not him ducking.
    Either you man up and fight or you are scared and ducking, in which case, admit it, vacate and run away doing reality tv and bs exhibitions.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Fury will have Ngannou 2 and probably 3 after the Parisian rough sleeper lands a mysterious ghost punch, so Usyk can do Hrgovic and Femi3. The duck goes on.
     
  11. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know when we last had an undisputed fight at heavy?
    In the f'ing 20th century!! Thats how bad it is in boxing and why we should be furious at Fury for ruining this opportunity...
     
  12. Bokaj

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    Yes, at least Bowe dumped the belt in the trash, clearly stating that there were much better risk/reward fights out there.

    Fury does his whole "it's not about the money, I'm a fighting man" and "Usyk is a MW and an easy night's work" bs then does everything he can to get out of the fight while still trying to maintain some sort of plausible deniability. He's a ****ing disgrace. I've been fed up with him for a while, but the Usyk debacle woke everyone but the core fanatics up to what a bullshitter he is.

    The fight might still be made, mind you. The Dubois fight could have given Fury some added confidence and both Usyk and Fury losing mobility and speed due to age will only favour the bigger man, and his legacy will forever suffer if he continues to duck Usyk. Taken together these things might convince Fury to face him.
     
  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    he should be stripped if he contrives a loss and agrees to Ngannou desert rematches.