Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

Well he is a promoter. It is obviously the same for Warren as well. Frank wasn't convincing Fury to take the rematch for the benefit of boxing fans, let's put it that way.

Just to add, in the full interview Krassyuk actually addressed your second point

 

Fury is a gutless clown crapping in his pants at the thought of fighting Usyk.

Back in the day he bottled fighting Price. This so called fighting man is a cancer in boxing.

Tyson ain't got the balls to fight someone he calls a middleweight.

Every fight fan should call out this no mark before he tells us another fight with Chisora is on the cards.

A 6ft 9inch gypsy coward who disgraces the warrior code.

This is from a former fan who has seen what a fraud Fury is.

 

Which is fine, but then he shouldn't lie to the people he's about the legacy, when he's about the money.

"Usyk was having in mind that the split will be 70:30 for the winner in the rematch" - what?! The rematch is something they were discussing yesterday and is a different fight (where one has no belts), but he was assuming it like the same as the first fight? Is he (Usyk) that stupid? Or he and his team got cornered, so now we see their part in the fail.

 

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at there. The rematch has been under discussion for some time. It was put in by Fury's side, and Usyk's side agreed.

Yesterday on TalkSPORT didn't Warren say he wanted 50-50 in the rematch? That being for Fury if he lost.

 

Maybe WBC president is displeased by their champion's unprofessional behavior, he gathers his board and makes a decision to rank Usyk as Fury's mandatory.

 

I am not getting anything, it's there: they used it as an excuse. Usyk got 50:50 in the Joshua rematch, so being about the legacy, but not the money, could've agreed as well.

 

Being about legacy doesn't mean your promoter isn't going to look out for your best interests.

Let's assume Usyk beats Fury for a moment. At that point he will have beaten Joshua twice, and Fury once. He will also be undisputed champion. At which point what exactly does Fury bring to the table to warrant 50-50. Because I very much doubt they are offering Usyk 50-50 if he loses. But correct me if I'm wrong on that.

 

At the point where beltless Joshua got 50:50, after the first 70:30 (per Usyk's promoter, right):

So here's how it is:
- Fury, being greedy, gets his money and shame, being beaten once or twice
- Usyk gets his solid legacy

 

Again, you'll have to explain a bit more.

My understanding from this interview was Usyk at the time was mandatory challenger, and was still building his profile. So when Hearn gave them an incentive above the mandatory conditions they thought 50-50 was a fair deal given Joshua's star power and PPV track record.

There is a difference between a version of Usyk that has only one win over Joshua and our hypothetical version that has Two wins over Joshua, one win over Fury and will be recognised as Undisputed at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight.
And let's be real here, Fury isn't Joshua, and has nothing like the PPV sales.

So my question is still, why would Fury expect 50-50 if he loses? What would he be bringing to the table?

As Krassyuk said he has been privy to Fury's numbers, so if Fury wants to argue the point, that he is indeed on par with Joshua, he can always release them.

 

That's 2 out of 2 falling through for Fury. Both coincidentally the two hard fights. Funny how Chisora and shot to **** Whyte didn't cause any problems with the negotiations.

Now when there are bigger names and bith parties think they bring something to the table, splits will become somewhat of a contentious issue.

Truth is: Fury believes himself to be a massive attraction and wants to penny pinch even when a rare undisputed bout is at stake.

I still don't get the 70 -30 rematch clause in favour of Usyk and how they thought it would get past muster. Fury is a scuzzy *****, but you have to factor that in when negotiating- and that was an unrealistic request by team Usyk.

 

I do agree with your point about 70-30 not getting very far with Fury. However, a lot, and I mean A LOT, of people were arguing that Usyk was the B-side, and it was ONLY IF he beat Fury he would rightly then get to call the shots. Therefore, he should take the lower end of the split to make long money. Well, it seems that Fury doesn't actually agree with that idea.

 

Whyte did kick up a fuss in negotiations, it was hardly a smooth path to agreement. There was a big legal dispute over his purse after the WBC reduced his mandatory split down to 20%, he took the WBC to court and lost, so had no choice but to accept the less the normal split. The only leverage Whyte had was he was the mandatory so should get 25% but without that he had to accept Fury's terms.

 

It was even worse. He ended up with 18%, and he thought his leverage was based on potentially getting 40% as interim belt holder. The WBC had other ideas.

 

Jesus Christ WBC really bent him over the shoved a large one up there didn't they lol.

I remember when Fury went off on a tirade against the WBC when they wouldn't give him a shot at the title but he was smart enough to retract that and get on their good side again. Whyte and Hearn simply dug a hole for themselves by deriding the WBC for not enforcing his mandatory or making him mandatory. You have to play by their rules unfortunately.

 

Fury took the L here. This is his second loss after the first McDermott fight.

The most blatant duck since Bowe threw his belt in the bin.