Fury vs. Usyk is OFF, says Usyk's manager

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Melankomas, Mar 21, 2023.


Who's at fault

  1. Usyk

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  2. Fury

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  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I'm not going to waste my time looking up these blatant lies/misquotes to disprove them. There's a reason for you never bringing exact quotes from him (from specific videos with timestamps) you accuse him with - you just misquote/lie and think it would fly. Even the fact itself is telling that you despise him and yet, you claim to quote so many things he said - which would only be possible if you religiously listened to the guy day in, day out. So how is it, mate - you hate the guy, yet listen to his videos for hours and hours, year after year? Lol.

    You simply can't stand the guy because he keeps debunking the Fury hagiography and he is good at it. Frankly, I don't give a **** about your opinion of him, but it's funny how triggered you get every single time the guy is mentioned somehow. He lives rent-free in your head, my little Furyette mate. Good, at least some quality boxing knowledge gets in there this way.
     
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  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury NEVER wanted it. Ever.

    His reputation is in tatters and he and Frank Warren have been exposed for the lying cowards they are.

    Let's just stick to the facts here.

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    I think we all know who is to blame now.

    Warren has lost control of Fury and will start losing money on him now because his financial demands are so high.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So who will Fury fight? Here are some scenarios:

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    Scenario 1: Andy Ruiz. I believe Andy has been in the mix the whole time. Andy's training. Andy is the WBC #2 contender (only behind Wilder). The WBC has already called for Andy and Deontay to fight to determine which of them fights Fury later this year. If Wilder takes a different route ... Tyson Fury can get his mandatory defense out of the way right away. Andy would sell PPVs in the US. (West coast fans love him.) Brits know him from the Joshua fights. Tyson Fury vs. Andy Ruiz would be the easiest fight to sell and it would be profitable, too. And Andy has already offered to step in.

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    Scenario 2: Anthony Joshua. Joshua fights a week from Saturday (April 1). That's also the WBA deadline to make the Fury-Usyk unification, which seems dead. Eddie Hearn is publicly pushing for Fury-Joshua. Eddie's proudest moment seemed to be when he got the Saudi prince to agree to pay Fury and Joshua the largest purses in boxing history in 2021. But the fight got blocked by Wilder's arbitrator. Eddie, Fury and Joshua would all LOVE to run that back again and try get the Saudis to bankroll it again. It would be a massive middle finger to all the Fury bashers, Joshua bashers and give Eddie something to crow about.

    If Tyson Fury shows up at the Joshua-Franklin fight on April 1, I think we're getting Fury-Joshua next.

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    Scenario 3 Fury RETIRES again.
    I've been of the firm belief that once Fury-Usyk didn't take place in the Middle East, it was dead in the water. Fury isn't afraid of Usyk. Fury was very excited when he thought he was going to get the biggest purse (similar to the proposed Joshua unification) of his career fighting Usyk in the UAE. But those folks didn't want to pay what Fury wanted. Once that happened, it was a long shot that the fight would ever be signed.

    Everyone involved knows there are limited resources in the UK PPV world. They can pay one fighter huge money, but not both in the same fight. And neither side was getting the money they envisioned they'd get from the biggest unification in an era. Despite that, their business people had all their meetings. Did all the work they were supposed to do.

    But the bottom line was this fight just wasn't going to be financially what ANY of them wanted it to be. And the negotiators were representing two very unhappy people who were going through the motions, arguing, demanding this be added and that be added, waiting for the other to leave first. It had become miserable. The "shine" went off with the boxers when the Saudi money vanished.

    Fury is so frustrated with what has happened, and all the bad press he's received, he may just take yet "another retirement" and come back when he thinks people "miss him" or the division seems dead.

    And if the "title" fights we're getting are Usyk-Dubois or Usyk-Bakole, or Andy Ruiz picks up a WBC or IBF strap, the fans may want Fury back sooner rather than later.

    Because having a "super nice, aw shucks" heavyweight champion who can't knock anyone out tends to get boring really fast.

    So, there's three. ;)
     
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  4. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hilarious reading the comments under the drivel Queensberry is trying to put out. Even that talksport video is getting rinsed in the comments. Jordan just pretending warren didn't lie to him yesterday about Sugar Hill. It's the same across all of social media, they are getting slaughtered for the bull****.

    They are lucky YouTube disabled being able to view the dislikes.

    Fury with the Biggest duck since Bowe

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  5. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    It's even worse than the Bowe duck. At least Bowe relinquished his belt so challengers could fight for it. Fury, on the other, has been just holding the WBC strap hostage.
     
  6. Serge

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    :lol: Check out the comments. Nobody is buying the BS they're selling. Like I said, Belly's reputation and credibility is in tatters. Even in his own country it is.
     
  7. CooperKupp

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    I had held a slight grudge against Fury after he didn’t give Wlad a rematch. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and went along with the whole “I got into drugs and my mental health went to ****” stuff. But now this is just blatant.

    Fury can go **** himself. I really don’t care who he fights next. Won’t watch. Usyk DESERVED that undisputed shot with all he’s done and the road he’s been down. It’s not fair. It’s bull****. And Wlad deserved a rematch after reigning for 11 years. Getting more angry the more I think about it now.
     
  8. NullaLexInk

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    Appreciate the well thought out response man :thumbsup: Of the three I see Ruiz as the most likely next step. I doubt AJ comes next, not out of fear on Fury's part or anything (I really doubt Fury fears anyone, let alone a man he's previously agreed to fight two years ago), but I think AJ and his team might want him to get at least a couple of confidence booster fights before moving in on that. I'd be happy to be wrong though, that would be a great fight and would take a bit of sting out of losing the Usyk fight, since AJ is another opponent that carries a bit of risk. I don't give him a high chance of beating Fury, but I do believe that if Wilder can floor Fury, AJ has a chance to and could actually be measured enough to finish the job. Again though, I don't give such a scenario a super high chance of happening, but it's within the realm of possibility at least and that's enough to make a fight exciting.

    Andy Ruiz wouldn't be the worst fight though. I don't give him much of a chance against Fury, but hey, you never know. That's why I love boxing so much, anything can happen, and regardless they'll make it an entertaining fight. He's definitely better than any of the guys I mentioned. Which for the record I never saw as a real possibility, I just thought up all the misleading language and thought it was too funny not to post :lol:
     
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  9. Serge

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    Thanks

    Belly wanted Usyk to agree to the same contract as Usyk vs AJ I: 70/30 for him and 50/50 for the rematch.

    Usyk obviously agreed to those splits before the first fight and while AJ held three belts to his zero

    So Usyk deserves the same split he's does as the three-belt unified HW king as he did when he was a beltless mandatory challenger after not only having beaten the then reigning three-belt unified king and biggest star in British boxing/2nd biggest in the world once but after having done so twice? His commercial value and popularity will obviously have increased significantly since then and he was already popular and well liked in the UK prior to that.

    The deck couldn't have been stacked anymore in that fat greedy scumbag's favour but he ran like a thief in the night from a MW and robbed all the fans of the undisputed fight we were all so desperate to see. Fork him he's a fraud and a coward and pretty much the entire boxing world views him as such now.
     
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  10. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Agreed

    Hope he retires, but no doubt he will fight mma fighters while proclaiming, "no man born from his mother" and all the other nonsense he spouts

    Certainly not a fan of the duck anymore. I did go off him before, but kind of warmed to him again, but he's an absolute joke
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's embarrassing watching them still desperately trying to defend their hero when pretty much the entire boxing world, and that includes every single one of them, knows he's ducked Usyk and never wanted any part of him.
     
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  12. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Hear hear. As far as I'm concerned, with Fury ducking him like that, Usyk soundly beat Fury and he is the reigning undisputed and lineal heavyweight champion of the world now.
     
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  13. Serge

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    Yeah. Usyk is the real WBC and lineal champion and therefore undisputed champ now. Fury conceded that belt and title to him like he did his Ring belt
     
  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree with everything posted so far. I became a Fury fan early on, mainly because he was in exciting fights. When he was starting out in the pros, he really didn't utilise his size and boxing skills. He would get involved in dust ups, get hurt or dropped by journeyman types but come back and win. He got lucky against McDermott. He really only started using his size and skill when he rematched Chisora from memory. By the time he was to fight Klitschko, virtually nobody gave him a chance. He won, then ducked the rematch (went to extraordinary lengths to duck it) . Then he gets super hyped as possibly the greatest of all time after beating the super hyped Wilder. FFS! Anyway he's a douchebag of grand master levels. **** I hope he goes away quickly. His rampant lies and insults of Usyk, a real salt of the earth type dude make me sick.
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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