Fury vs Usyk - Video Preview & Prediction

Fury fks him up

 

5 reasons why Fury will beat Usyk

1. 6'8, 85 inch reach, 265 lbs, roughhouse vs 6'3, 78 inch reach, 220 lbs, clean

2. 10 round RTD/TKO shutouts against Chisora vs 7-5 official decision against Chisora

3. Stopped Wilder x2, Cunningham, Chisora, Hammer vs stopped Mchunu, shopworn Huck, Bellew

4. 2 hours and 13 minutes of pro ring time against his seven southpaw opponents, can box southpaw himself

5. Fury will not underestimate Usyk or lack motivation, focus-wise this will be the Fury from the Klitschko or 2nd Wilder fight


5 reasons why Usyk will beat Fury

1. Elite fighter, P4P No.1

2. Fast, agile cruiserweight like Cunningham

3. Durable, mentally strong southpaw like Wallin

4. Active against better opposition than Fury in their last two fights

5. Lots of experience sparring and beating SHW’s, including Wlad and Joshua x2


Fury-Usyk record comparison

Fury’s tier 1: Wlad, Wilder x3

Fury’s tier 2: Chisora x2, Cunningham, Wallin, Whyte


Usyk’s tier 1: Briedis, Joshua x2

Usyk’s tier 2: Hunter, Gassiev, Chisora

 

Handily agree. This is an area that many fight fans overlook or under estimate its impact on a fight.

A Fury ref will make it very difficult for Usyk... while a Usyk ref will give Usyk a good chance to defeat the much bigger Fury.

 

Casual spider sense says the Ukrainian- too much precision, conditioning and toughness against ugly mauling arm punches from the bigger man. Fury can look really stinky sometimes, Usyk truly is that rare total package, he takes the UD 12

 

Take the emotion out of it, Usyk really hasn't got much for Fury.

There isn't much, if any of a skill gap, people are confusing biomechanics and fluidity for skill. Usyk is more fluid, Fury is more creative, both have a deep understanding of the sport.

AJ for instance has very little skill, he is an athlete who boxes, easy work for a guy as savvy as Usyk would be just as easy for Fury.

Fury has options in the fight, he may try win some rounds long behind a very rangey jab, his jab comes from far outside, not like AJ who jabs at mid range and is very clunky with it, Fury's jab will be a lot harder work for Usyk.

Fury may collapse the pocket and decide to rough Usyk up on the inside, again something AJ had no ability to do. We know Usyk doesn't like being pressured and roughed up, I feel fury is by far the best opponent he's faced at using those tactics.

Usyk's best chance would have been if Fury really did underestimate him and came In half baked, Fury is capable of doing that and being lacklustre. But the bad news for Usyk is that it's clear Fury is taking him deadly serious, and so we are going to get the absoloute best version of Fury.

The best version of Fury demolished Wilder with such ease it made Wilder look pathetic. The best version of Usyk went 12 with a checked out AJ and won 8-4 in a clear win that had its competetive moments.

Bluntly, Fury by stoppage, and it may be shockingly early.

 

Excellent point and I agree. The Jones vs Ruiz fight might be a very good example as to how referring can impact a fight.

I want to be clear - a ref ensuring a clean, open fight is a GOOD thing and an approach I prefer, but Nady might’ve taken that memo a bit far, twitching to separate at even the slightest hint of some inside action.

At any rate, Ruiz was all about leaning and mauling - that WAS the forecasted challenge for Jones - how would he deal with that and against a man of superior natural size and weight.?

That threat was removed by the ref - a logistic that Jones didn’t have to overcome.

With that problem removed, as we saw, though a great performance by Jones, there wasn’t much on offer from the Quiet Man otherwise.

A double edged sword example for refereeing impact involving the same two fighter might be Ali-Frazier 2 vs Ali-Frazier 3 - Ali being allowed to hold ridiculously in the former (ref Perez) but not the latter fight (slap happy Padilla)

Back to the first analogy, of course, unlike Ruiz, Fury has more than one string to his bow, quite a few strings in fact.

But if the ref does prevent leaning and mauling, that will not only spare Usyk having his own energies drained and attack stifled - but it will also deprive Fury of his own, perhaps much needed and crucial, stolen moments for resting himself.

Victory reliant upon leaning and mauling doesn’t tell us that bigger men are necessarily better in boxing - because, though allowed in varying measures, those tactics simply aren’t boxing per se.

Those tactics are more in the realm of wrestling and grappling and it’s none too surprising the guy with the huge size advantage will win the day - at least in the dept. where he directly imposes his physicality on his smaller rival.

 

I like a ref who let's them work a bit, without letting things go too far.

This isn't amateur boxing, in fighting is part of the game, as is a little rough housing. Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Lewis, klitschko.

Every one of them had their moments of "dirty boxing", because this isn't a ballet dance, are they any less great because of it? Of course not, it's part of heavyweight boxing.

A ref that doesn't let any of it go, ruins the fight as a spectacle, it kills the flow.

The fine line is somewhere between Jones vs Ruiz and Wlad vs Povetkin.

 

Of course reasonable infighting is fine.

Just imo, Joe Frazier is one of the most perfect examples of pristinely clean infighting.

However, overt leaning and mauling that is periodically practiced is ugly to watch - and isn’t, as it so happens, pure boxing - that observation doesn’t sling shot into suggesting that one is imposing an amateur template on pro boxing or harbouring a desire to watch Swan Lake instead of a good ol’ fashioned punch up - a punch up that doesn’t denigrate itself into wrestling.

You’re right - there is a fine line to it, refs can be either too lax or micro manage it too much - but the interpretation of what’s okay and what isn’t okay varies from one fan to another and always remains subjective - just as subjective as the treatment we see from one ref to another.

Ironically, the ones that least need it, the greater skilled, bigger name fighters often get away with the foul stuff more - because they work it and dilute it into their overall skillet that is legitimate otherwise.

When lesser skilled fighters practice foul tactics it stands out like a pimple on a pumpkin because they’re not doing a lot else and therefore, they often get called out for same.

 

You hit on something that's affecting many fans view of this fight - me too. Many want the "little" guy to win. And most of us sympathize with someone that might be getting the short end of the money. Because that's how we feel big companies, govt at all levels, and even other people have treated us.

I think both are high end fighters in different ways. Pound for pound Usyk is better, but not that much better. This is the HW division and as Stalin once said - quantity has a quality all its own. Fury as the bigger man, has more quantity than Usyk.
I want Usyk to do well, and he might win... but at the moment I see a Fury win.

 

Wilder was an easy win for fury as he has his right hand cocked the entire time to land his signature punch, and therefore head movement is next to nothing, or he's moving back in straight lines with his chin in the air. So an easy target for Fury. Chisora has head movement but it's jerky as opposed to moving off the line, and he's a slow mover so Tyson was able to keep peppering him. With Usyk there won't be that luxury. Usyk has great head and foot movement and he's usually setting something up after moving off the line. So Tyson will be missing and being countered, probably a lot to the body. Wilder just aimed for the head all night, which played into Fury's hand. Usyk will be attacking the body and waiting for that right hand, which will be the best weapon for Fury imo. If he can adapt to Usyk's movement patterns then maybe he can land that shot throughout the fight while still moving back and keeping usyk out of the pocket. If Fury tries to smother Usyk and hug his way to victory, it'll end badly for Fury imo. The double jab should also be in Fury's game plan. AJ had a slow peppering jab that usyk found his way around easily. Fury's quick double flick, triple flick jab will need to be used to land those jabs and keep usyk outside. Fury has faster hands and that'll be the difference to Joshua and a real asset. Usyk will be looking to stay off the line and maybe make himself really low, get under the jabs and hit that midsection really hard with a straight left. Fury might duck his head and sway - a habit of his, when Usyk closes the gap, or if he's on the ropes. That'll be where Usyk will shine as he's not a one trick pony who's always off balance looking for a big shot- he'll be balanced and looking for tight combinations that'll cause problems for Fury. It's not a slow, average 6'5 Scandinavian in there he can look like Ali against. It's Usyk.

 

Only Fury can break the rummy curse.

Glad it's not Ruiz Jr or AJ for undisputed. Usyk is a better name for the resume regardless of him being a cruiserweight, he's ATG alongside Holyfield.

 

yup, Fury wins

 

If you believe this is an early stoppage for Fury then you seriously DKSAB. Wilder probably deserved the decision in the first fight, one where Fury was knocked down 3 times. It was only when Fury had no other choice that he realised Wilder could not box at all, and pushing him backwards was all he needed to do to win, and there we have fight 2 and 3. Not such a great feat, and PBC has intentionally kept Wilder away from anyone remotely dangerous in that regard.

Usyk on the other hand can box off the back foot, in fact he is by far the best pure boxer Fury will ever face, if this fight happens.

Fury can impose his size on Usyk and if I was him I would too, but it won't lead to an early knockout, as they will be clinching. In close quarters, Usyk with shorter arms has some advantages.

Fury, with his fists of puff, will struggle to accumulate enough damage to stop Usyk. He may go down the dirty path and use the low blow dispute with Dubois as a precedent. It is only the type of person who reports that Haney won a clear decision against Loma who could believe that was not a low blow. This is the skulduggery we may need to deal with in such a seminal fight.