Fury vs...who? Is a ppv on BT Sport

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  1. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    It's probably fuelled by bias for his brother. It's understandable that John would want his family back close together again. They were flawless working together out in Germany against Klitschko and he probably desires that again.
     
  2. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    I remember the first time I cam across Davison was when he ran Saunders' corner against Akavov and arguably gave some poor advice in the corner while Billy was struggling and at risk of losing.
     
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  3. Optimus Grime

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    Im sure your right mate but Davison has done a good job (they beat Wilder in most peoples opinion and Fury has looked great against admittedly low opposition), they were unfortunate with the cut tonight.
     
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  4. Scissors

    Scissors Ex British Forum Poster. Full Member

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    That’s it. He’s been fine when Tyson has been on top and everything going his way but as soon as he had a bit of adversity I thought Ben Davison was exposed.

    It would be harsh to bin him off completely but I wouldn’t want him as my main corner fight in a major fight.
     
  5. TonyHayers

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    Whenever he’s discussed the first thing mentioned is his contribution to getting Tyson in shape. That’s fine, but that’s the job of a strength and conditioning coach. You get the impression that once the fight is underway Tyson is, to a greater or lesser extent, on his own.
     
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  6. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member booted Full Member

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    100% they said he done a blinder in the corner against wilder but i could do as good a job if you swapped me for him

    "Awite tyson watch out for the right hand, just touch him with the jab right hand dont get greedy mate awite"

    Trainer of the year material, me
     
  7. Work the body

    Work the body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He needs to get rid of his trainer. It’s obvious they are just mates and he’s doing him a favour.
     
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  8. Hattonmad

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    I hope this happens. I've praised Davison a lot and he done a remarkable job with Tyson up until this fight but his advice last night was awful. He clearly rehearses his corner advice and when the fight went against the script, he was terrible. Fury's face was gushing blood and Wallin was fighting as though his life depended on it - "volume and variety" - what are you on about Ben? Those buzz words sound great when your guy is putting on a clinic but it was embarrasing considering how the fight was playing out.

    The action was pleasing on the eye for the casuals but Fury's skill level appeared digressed and that's a worry. What has Davison been doing in camp? Granted the cut changed things but Fury didn't look great before that. He wasn't using his feet or head as well as usually does. That's Fury's forte. We seen early in his career that when he doesn't use his feet and head to the best of his ability he gets dragged into a war.

    The positives to be taken from a tough night are that the big man showed again that his heart, stamina and will to win are second to none. Fury can go into the trenches for 12 rounds and nobody will out toughen him or gas him out. He never looked hurt or in danger of being stopped (apart from the blood) and he proved once again that he'll have to be knocked out cold to be defeated. However, if he goes to war with Wilder like he did last night being knocked out cold is a possibility.

    Credit to Wallin. He's big, tough and game. I believe he'll have a good career and he's deserved of the exposure he received last night. The arena looked packed to me. We're talking about a Brit fighting an unknown Swede in Las Vegas. Any amount of tickets sold is decent.
     
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  9. Scissors

    Scissors Ex British Forum Poster. Full Member

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    Very, very strong words.



     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Fury is 31 years old. He knows how to box. He doesn't need a genius trainer. He's changed trainer a three or four times already since he went pro.
    Ben Davison has done a fine job. People love to credit trainers with being genius or brilliant when the fighter is doing great, and then say they suck when the fighter looks less great.

    Fury's problem is he threw away his career potential after beating Klitschko and he's never going to be what he could have been. He was never great but he had the chance to be very good at least, but that went down the pan a few years ago now.
    The only reason Fury's been hyped since 2018-19 is because a lot of people always said Wilder and Joshua are OVERhyped too, and that's kind of proven. There are probably a half dozen to ten other heavyweights in the world who are probably on the same level on their best night, and "The Big Three" thing that people were so keen on six months ago was never a reality.
    I like the division as it is. They aren't great fighters but it's entertainment.

    I thought Fury-Wallin was a decent fight.
    Fury was given "house fighter" benefit with the cut. If Wallin had that cut the fight wouldn't have lasted beyond the 5th or 6th.

    If Fury really believed he was as great as he says, he's RETIRE now.
    If I was a family friend of his I'd probably want him to retire. Money is too good to turn down though.
     
  11. TonyHayers

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    Good post but I’m not sure about them all being proven to not be great. You could have made this exact same point in the early/mid 90’s. ‘Tyson’s not a great and his career is over after Douglas/prison. And as for Lewis, don’t make me laugh. Knocking over Frank Bruno in a nip and tuck fight and getting blown away by Oliver McCall...’

    You get the point. Any of them could go on to be great.
     
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  12. Hattonmad

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    It's exaggerated but he has a point.
     
  13. TonyHayers

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    Report states there were 8,249 spectators in the venue. A venue that holds more than 22,300 for boxing.

    ‘The arena looked packed to me.’

    Well, it wasn’t.
     
  14. Accurate

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    Don't know what all the fuss is about, Fury fought with a bad cut and still battered Wallin. Wallin did a lot better than most expected but Fury still won comfortably. Imagine if he hadn't got cut.

    Think I'll go to bed now and promptly pass out.
     
  15. TonyHayers

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    The fuss is about the fallout regarding Fury’s corner. Also, continued question marks over his power are raised after he looked to be in a situation where he could really have done with getting rid of a gassed Wallin and he couldn’t do it.

    The cut is also another annoyance. That’s Fury done for 2019. What a waste.
     


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