Fury vs Whyte

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  1. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Pity the Corona Virus might delay it, but I'd also like to see it over and done with.

    Fury/Whyte might bring back credibility to the WBC belt a little. But Wilder has his pull on the WBC belt still ... and without the fight we might get some kind of Fres Oquendo situation going down.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    The same way Fury boxed Wallins head off yeah lol?

    Please tell me more
     
  3. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury was dropped by Neven Pajkic. He clearly doesn't approach every bout with the same intensity. Dillian Whyte is clearly someone you need to prepare diligently for and approach with caution. Dillian Whyte is my second favourite boxer behind Tyson Fury, so I would love to see it happen. Dillian Whyte has the cojones to go in there with purpose and it would be interesting to see that.

    I think Tyson Fury definitely wins, though.
     
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  4. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It appears that you label anyone that disagrees with you a 'Troll". A childish act on your part, but you are what you are.
    "Big, fat" Dillian Whyte had his chance and he blew it. His logic (like yours), makes no sense. Fighters hope and pray for a title shot during their careers, and yet Whyte turns one down and now, pissed and moans about not getting his chance.

    Perhaps you should consider reading others posts, comprehend what they are stating, instead of constantly posting your views.
    Who knows. you might actually develop as a person.
     
  5. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joseph Parker didn't have him out on his feet. Dillian Whyte was visibly tired. He had been rag dolling Joseph Parker around for most of the fight and I always say it, Dillian Whyte comes in too heavy on a consistent basis.

    He had himself out on his feet.
     
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  6. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    B sample Whyte gets his **** pushed in by tyson
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As someone who isn't a fan of Whyte, at this point he should get a shot. He's waited in the wings for a while, Joshua is tied up with Pulev, then likely Usyk, and I have no desire to see a Fury/Wilder 3 showdown.
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    And that's fair play, but someone trying to tell me that Whyte is no threat needs their HEAD EXAMINED. Whyte also rises to the occasion depending on who he fights he can dig deeper... but fact is Whyte always shows up motivated and ready.

    Whyte can box a lot better than Wilder can, and carries power in all his punches...and has already beaten highly decorated... skilled, experienced boxers.

    So Wallin did damge to fury, you dont think Whyte can do a better job?
     
  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Maybe you should learn some analytical thinking skills, which is what Whyte fans have in common.

    For example, let me slap some intelligent analysis on you -

    As an example ....Luis Ortiz turning down AJ aint the same as Whyte turning down the offer because -

    A. Luis Ortis is older than the Queen, and he is at the end of his career.

    B. Whyte being a UK fighter, under matchroom... who already is 1-1 with AJ (according to AJ) was ALWAYS going to have another shot at AJ for pure promotional reasons... it was always going to sell and be there in future as he young like AJ in the prime of their careers.

    C. Dillian Whyte at the time had the WBO mandatory so he gambled on that he would still have another shot at AJ via mando but then Usyk came in and took it... not Whyte fault... he earned that WBO mando... Uysk didnt

    So there you have it.... Whyte turned it down with GOOD reason at the time and it aint equivalent to ORTIZ turning down AJ... completely different situations... based on factors that go way beyond your 89 IQ
     
  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    The simple fact, which many dont want to accept, is that Whyte is really hardwork for a lot of these guys, and they stand to lose a lot fighting Whyte. Whyte just ain't worth it for them as it is a fight they would likely lose...

    The calibre of fighters Whyte has beaten... and also the variety of styles he has overcome speaks volumes... their training teams and promoters and coaches look at whyte and see a big threat. They see a guy that is a TRUE live body... he doesnt just show up to win, he shows up to hurt people, and he has demonstrated his ability to really hurt people and take punishment in return.

    Whyte is avoided like the plague.

    AJ made an offer to save face but the reality is he lowballed Dillian because he knows Dillian Very well and Dillian wouldnt accept a lowball offer.... so he knew Whyte would reject as did Hearn....

    if AJ was serious about fighting Whyte he would have offered more reasonable terms... lALL that was asked was to simply reverse the split... if AJ believed in himself as levels above Whyte he would win and then there would be no rematch !?

    Whyte also believe in himself, and hence wants to plan for the strong possibility of him earning a rematch by securing a FAIR sp
    lit.
     
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  11. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte can do a better job than Otto Wallin, against that version of Tyson Fury and under those circumstances.

    I don't really know how the bout would go. I think that Tyson Fury has more options regarding how he would want to dictate the bout. Dillian Whyte would no doubt try and turn it into a brawl and I don't think Tyson Fury moves as sharply to his left as he does his right, so Dillian Whyte could potentially find an inroad to the body or head with his left hand, which can obviously be devastating. I think the difference in size would be telling, as Dillian Whyte isn't even his billed height. I can see him tiring and being worn down. I think he has better chances against Anthony Joshua. If he was in better condition and without injury in their first bout then I think he would have had Anthony Joshua out of there.
     
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  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fury is awkward and rangy, he would fight whyte same way he fought chisora, he aint winning a brawl with whyte.

    But Whyte was catching Helenius with big body shots... helenius was seriously covering up after the first few body shots were landing... you could see helenius bringing in his elbows and arms to shield everytime he saw whyte going for the body... he was getting hurt.

    And whyte has a long jab despite his shorter stature... he uses his jab well... which is something chisora didnt do against fury

    So a combination of body shots and jabbing to slow fury down (as fury keeps his range and movement) then look for the kill
     
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  13. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury schools Whyte
    Late tko or clear decision
     
  14. navigator

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    Fatigue and attrition are part of the game, friend. Parker's right hands on the button had plenty to do with the state Whyte ended up in.


    I think boxing junkies would warm to Whyte if he was less loquacious and troublesome. On the plus side, his fights tend to be entertaining (the marquee ones, at least), he appears to have no quit in him and he's got some solid stuff on his résumé. On the other hand, he talks a lot of rot that he just doesn't possess the personal charm or good humor to pull off. He comes across as boorish, churlish and often times thuggish, with no eccentricity or intelligence to offset that impression. He also comes across as a poseur; nobody buys that corny gully gad crap, especially after they saw him break character and go all 'apples and pears' at The Gloves Are Off (Chisora). And claiming outsider status when you've been built into a Box Office attraction by Eddie Hearn is just risible.

    A little self-awareness would go a long way for Dillian. If he presented himself in a more relatable and less pettily quarrelsome light, he'd do better with the sport's more steadfast fans and would still be plenty marketable.


    As for Fury-Whyte, it's a routine night for the king. Fury-Wallin has as little bearing on this matchup as it had on Fury-Wilder; Whyte, notwithstanding his hefty build, isn't a stylistic bull (has fashioned himself as a mid-range counterpuncher with a workrate, a role he's pretty good in up to a certain point), Wallin's footwork and speed made him much more comfortable when taking the front foot and opening up his offense than Dillian has ever looked in that role, nor is Whyte a southpaw, nor would Fury approach the bout complacently (given that Whyte is actually somewhat heralded). If Fury boxes, Whyte will be bamboozled all night, his output cut and his balance exploited.

    If Fury goes to him, Dillian will like that even less. A poster I just replied to spoke about Whyte having been exhausted by handling Joseph Parker for 11 rounds, and Joseph is no '6'9" and 270 lbs. Fury will take that left hook away from him in the mid-range exchanges and bully and maul him when in close quarters. Tyson's always had that side to his game, it's just being acknowledged more now on account of how well he imposed it on Wilder.

    Inside, outside, mid-range, wherever this fight is waged, Fury is infinitely superior to Whyte. (And Whyte certainly doesn't have the temperament or the wits to go with Fury in the pre-fight psychological warfare. :lol:)


    The matter of Wilder-Whyte would've been a more interesting one, at least. Both can be swingers with questionable balance, but I expect Whyte would have done his best to bring his most controlled, disciplined fight for Wilder. It's essentially a battle of the bombs, but Wilder's is the more devastating (which is saying something, as Whyte's hook is certainly an explosive punch) and likelier to detonate, while Deontay is the likelier of the two to survive a scare due to the concussive disparity just mentioned (both have fighting heart and will). Matchup has a little bit of intrigue to mull over, but ultimately it's very hard to look past Wilder and his X factor.
     
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  15. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well your "man love" for Dillian "Fat *******" Whyte seems to have ******ed your mental development. Who cares if Ortiz turned down Joshua? Whyte is the fat guy you seem to fascinate about. And he, Whyte, turned down a second fight with A. J. because he know he would receive another beat down, lacking the self confidence to rematch A.J. WBO mandatory? Who cares about the WBO other than Herbie Hide? Perhaps before you commence to insult another individuals intelligence you should check with you mummy to see if see would approve of such behavior.
     
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