Fury vs Wilder delayed

Fury has said that if Wilder wants the rematch, it will happen, because "there is too much money involved."

Our only chance of this not happening is if the promoters can't sell it and make a profit, which I think might happen. But Fury is 100% on board.

 

The world won't end, just humans ability to live on it.

 

I don't know all the ins and outs but I feel there's a big difference between being entitled to a shot and being contracted to fight Fury for a 3rd time within a certain time frame?

 

If I was a manager I'd advise Fury to get out of this fight if possible, not because it's a predictable outcome but because it's a risk not worth taking now. Fury fought Wilder twice, won twice. You keep fighting a massive puncher, you'll end up getting KO'd just by chance. Even in a primal sense it makes no sense to keep doing it if you've won convincingly, it would be like overcoming a dangerous animal but then letting it heal and return so you can keep risking your life again. What would actually happen is if you managed to get on top you'd destroy the threat then move on.

Fury only had a rematch clause this time because they robbed him the first time with the draw which forced the rematch clause in a way. So there's no reason to 'honour' a third fight when he was ripped off the first time. This fight only gives Wilder another fight to land the bomb, he has everything to gain in the match-up now. If Wilder does get a puncher's KO, he won't fight Fury again but run off with the belt. That means he'd have two losses and a win but come out on top. It's actually quite perverse to think about. It's totally stupid for Team Fury to take this fight if they don't have to.

 

I’m not disagreeing with you. The only reason I’m saying it would be in Tyson’s best interest to fight Wilder a 3rd time and get it over with is because if he doesn’t Haymon will definitely hold Arum and Fury up in court.

Even though some people in the forum are saying Fury should just drop the WBC title to fight Joshua they seem to forget that Hearn and Joshua only care about the WBC title and don’t care who holds it. If Fury drops the belt and Wilder and Whyte fight for the vacant WBC belt Joshua and Hearn will be looking to fight the winner instead of fighting Fury.

Here are Joshua’s own words a few weeks ago. He mentions his interest in fighting Fury, but it’s clear getting all of the belts is his first priority while fighting Fury is a distant second.

"Come fight me. If you really want to say you're No. 1, come fight me," Joshua said to Sky Sports.
"Let's get it on. I've got the rest of the belts, so it only makes sense. That proves that I'm the unified heavyweight champion of the world. He's the WBC champion of the world. What that will prove, me and him fighting, is that there will be one dominant figure in the heavyweight division that will have all of the belts and become undisputed."

"Logically, it says to prove yourself as No. 1, I have to fight Tyson Fury," Joshua said. "He has to fight Anthony Joshua. And it will be cause for a great announcement after this whole pandemic we're facing right now."
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/box...yweight-title-fight/6iyqj062lmoz1lyfqeb1620rw

 

Personally I'd like to see Fury vs Joshua happen as soon as possible, even before a Fury Wilder rematch. As many have said I really think Wilder vs Andy Ruiz would be a great fight. Let that happen, and the winner of that could fight the winner of Fury Joshua.

 

I think Joshua will fight Pulev next.
So Fury might as well fight Wilder again.

 

If a 3rd match happens I do think we'll see a much more hungry and focused Wilder. It is a dangerous match for Fury. That was a bad version of Wilder that fought him in the rematch. He was more focused on that ring entrance than he was to fight. Deontay won't let that happen again if he gets another opportunity. I'm not saying he'll win but he won't go out like that again I don't think.

 

It will be better for Fury if he relinquishes that shiny green belt. And let's Deontay fight Helenius for it.

 

Your right
The guilt of retiring Bum squad might be too much for the Gypsy King to live with

 

Fury shouldn’t have agreed to the rematch clause if he didn’t want to honor it.

Also, even though I had Fury winning the first fight Fury didn’t do himself any favors by barely throwing punches in some rounds and backing up too much, which doesn’t look good to some judges. This is why Roach was getting pissed in the corner. I can’t blame a judge for scoring some of the rounds where Fury didn’t throw any punches as even or for Wilder.

That said the second fight showed that Fury’s already fully adjusted to Wilder’s style and knows how to neutralize Wilder’s right and knows Wilder has no inside game to speak of, so if Wilder brings the same game plan a third time he’ll just get destroyed faster and in a way it would give more hype to the Fury-Joshua fight while at the same time making Wilder irrelevant.

Unless Wilder comes with a new game plan and learns how to protect himself in the clinch Wilder is done, since he’ll never get the chance to land that bomb. One of the easiest things for a skilled fighter to neutralize is power. My trainer told this to Wilder when he was still a prospect back in 2012 and it clearly didn’t sink in.

 

I'm sorry I worded it wrong.

I was on about the legality of the matter rather than the actual interest concerning Fury. Is Wilder entitled to a title shot full stop or is he contracted to fight him within a certain time frame? I don't know haha hence the question.

Fury definitely shouldn't drop the belt and if that means fighting Wilder for a third time then so be it. I'll still be tuning in regardless.

 

I'd rather see Whyte v Wilder but other than that I agree whole heartedly.

 

That's a great point and an unpopular argument to some, as many act like Fury won every round clearly. There is an argument that Fury's backing up too much lost him some rounds. I don't necessarily agree with that argument I guess it comes down to how many rounds? It couldn't have been more than 1 or 2 rounds where he was backing up too much, enough for it to lose him the round. Some judges will score to the fighter who was pressing the action.