Fury wants to commit suicide with Usyk

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    When a 22 year old Price beat a 17 year old Fury in the amateurs, a defeated Fury magnanimously raised Price's arm.

    After Fury beats Usyk it will be "Usyk was 35+ and shot" from the resentful idiot squad who've picked against Fury and been wrong time and time again.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    We will see...hopefully. Usyk is not shot, not by any means, so that would be an empty excuse for a loss. Like bad tendons.

    Unlike GGG, who is waaaaay past his due date.
     
  3. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury's surprise tactic will be putting his brain into Andy Ruiz's body.
     
  4. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    lol. Nistor had fast feet, even Chisora has more footspeed than that slug.
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Let him. This is a new precedence in the sport of boxing where fighters are really pushing towards undisputed, and its putting boxing back on a pedestal. I love it when the best actually fight the best, and when theres 1 champion that is left standing through it all.
     
  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Dumb thread title Fury should be the favourite if the fight gets made
     
  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury also said he wanted to fight AJ and Whyte before turning down the offers to fight just to fight lesser opposition for less money.

    Can't trust anything Fury says. However yes Usyk would schoold this current past it version of Fury.
     
  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Dumb thread?

    Lmao.

    The list of favourite fighters who committed suicide Is very long:

    1) Mike Tyson v Tokio Douglas: bad training + sluts + underrating the opponent

    2) Morrison v Bentt: bad training + sluts + underrating the opponent

    3) Mike Tyson v Evander Holyfied I : bad training + underrating the opponent

    4) Lewis v Rahman: bad training + underrating the opponent

    5) Wilder v Fury I : underrating Fury's detox from drugs, alcohol and mental issues.

    6) Joshua v Ruiz: underrating the opponent

    7) Joshua v USyk: underrating the size and the power of the opponent

    8) Whyte v Povetkin I : underrating the age of the opponent

    Coming soon:

    9) TYSON FURY v OLEKSANDER USYK: bad training + underrating the size, the chin and the power of the opponent
     
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would make Fury the slight favourite against Usyk...52-55 %.

    It will be a hard fought affair, and Usyk has an excellent chance of pulling off the upset.

    Let's hope this fight gets made.
     
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  10. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Usyk and Fury are both total professionals with high ring IQ. They will both come into this fight in great condition with solid game plans. Don’t know what you mean by suicide. Fury has faced bigger punchers and the worst that can happen is he loses. He will probably get a rematch and make a lot of money either way. I’m a Usyk fan (and Fury fan) and you have to admit Fury has a massive size advantage. Unlike AJ, Fury will use the size to his advantage. Usyk is going to have to fight the fight of his life to win this one. I am more excited about this one than any fight of the last decade. Hope it happens.
     
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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Read properly it says "dumb thread title" Fury fighting Usyk is a big risk for him but far from suicide.
     
  12. On The Money

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    I don't like this pay a loser millions to step aside routine. Fury should fight somebody else and bide his time. It mostly stinks of an attempt to re-engineer a mega fight with Femi although you have to assume he will need to fight Usyk twice before that happens. If Usyk beats Joshua again as we expect that payday fizzles away.
     
  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury should be favorite on paper. I like Fury and Usyk and judging of there previous fights I would have to favor Usyk slighly as I don't know which version of Tyson will show up.
    The last fight made Wilder look a lot better than he actually is and Fury looked a lot slower and less sharp than fight 2.
    I'm just having an issue working out how they will pay Joshua step aside money. which I do believe would be the best move for him to get some time with a new trainer.
    I suspect all of this might drag on or get delayed further adding to my suspicion on Fury.
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk stopped the two guys that made him mad...Huck and Bellew. And he sure had Joshua staggering around. For years I told people Fury had more power than they realized, and everyone told me I was an idiot and gave me the YDKSAB. Then Fury-Wilder II happened.

    Now I am telling them the same about Usyk, and I am getting the YDKSAB.

    Yes, there are feather-fisted fighters. Fury never was one, and neither is Usyk. Fury formerly, and Usyk currently, just prefer to box cautious, tactical matches.

    I am not saying that Usyk will stop Fury, though. I think the wold of both of them, and let the better man win. I lean a bit towards Usyk, just because Fury has so much wear and tear, and because he still openly drinks between fights and puts the weight on. That is **** for an athlete.
     
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  15. NEETzschean

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    "Featherfisted" is another term without universal definition. The accuracy, speed and timing of the shot can be as or more important as the sheer weight behind it and it's clear that Usyk is a respectable puncher but AJ was staggering around due to fatigue more than blunt force trauma or concussion (though if AJ is more aggressive, he may become as exhausted as Bellew was late and get taken out). Usyk stopped Mchunu (who didn't offend him so far as I know) and tried to stop suspect gas tank, then small cruiser Hunter (198 lbs vs Usyk's 208 lbs) but couldn't (only because the officials allowed Hunter to be bashed around the ring in the 12th but Hunter still made it that far). Glowacki and Gassiev were fights where Usyk had a big footspeed advantage so he didn't have to engage directly (though would he have won a slugfest with Gassiev? I doubt it) but against Briedis, Usyk couldn't employ those tactics and still didn't put a major dent in him. I suspect that Usyk has more practical power than Parker as Usyk had a less worn Chisora hurt in the 7th rather than the 11th, though part of that was because Chisora was much more gassed chasing the far faster and more agile Usyk around the ring, slowing down in the 3rd round rather than the 6th or 7th as he did with Parker.

    Does Fury have more wear and tear? It's impossible to know. Fury did consume industrial quantities of junk food, booze and coke in his 2.5 year absence but on the flipside, he didn't receive any 200+ lbs punches to the head during that period. Fury is 33 with 35 amateur and 32 professional bouts, Usyk is 35 with 350 amateur bouts, 6 semi-pro bouts and 19 professional bouts. Both have been slick boxers but it's hard to say who has taken less damage: early Fury was reckless but later Fury could dominate opponents while taking less damage than Usyk (Fury and Usyk vs Chisora is the relevant comparison) and being insanely tall reduces head damage. My belief is that smaller heavyweights tend to age faster, though this may be less true of cruisers because the punches they receive, while more numerous, are far less heavy. Fury also seems to have a relatively easy fight on the horizon if he boxes smart (weak chinned plodder Whyte) while Usyk will have another punishing fight with big femi, regardless of the result.

    If Fury comes in as he was in Fury-Wilder 3, there's a very high chance he loses. If he's firing on all cylinders I think he'll have too much for Usyk. We'll get an indication of how Fury's progressing in his next fight, whoever he will face. Hopefully the Wilder 3 tactics were an aberration, based on the particular attributes that Wilder possesses.