Fury/Whyte Split confirmed

How many times have people said take the short money....if you think you can win to then get bigger money. Its pretty much the same principal. Your gonna give joyce and hrgovic a pass....and let them continue to fight mediocre guys while asking why their not fighting the best out there.

Beating chisora and ortiz would do wonders for both of their careers...which have been stagnating for a while now and everyone claims their victims of boxing corruption but dillian is a villain for the same thing. Outside of wilders fights with fury and klitchko....when has he really generated that much money. The truth is without a big name you cant be putting fury in the same bracket as joshua.

So a rematch against joshua a fair percentage for whyte is 10 percent is what your really saying. If its all down to how much these guys earn?

 

But Whyte's been reaping the rewards all the time. His reputation is largely built on the fact that the WBC gave him that high rating and some minor sub world title belts. He's benefited from the rankings allowing promoters to promote his fights as eliminators. He's been marketed with great assistance from the WBC rankings stamping him as a "number 1" fighter long before he'd done anything much at all to merit that tag.

In reality, how many of his opponents would you really have ranked as top 10 when he faced them?
I wouldn't rank Chisora.
I certainly wouldn't rank Helenius.
I certainly wouldn't rank Lucas Browne!
Nevermind a punch bag like Wach.

Parker was top 10.
Povetkin was top 10 but clearly on his way down.
Rivas was perhaps borderline top 10.

Whyte needed two attempts to beat old Povetkin. His win over Parker remains very controversial.

Whyte even got the privilege of a rematch clause in a "FINAL eliminator"!
Which set him up in another final eliminator.

He's profited greatly already from his ranking. And he's set to profit a lot more.
And if he can beat Fury he'll be on another level completely.

 

I don't have the exact figures. I don't think it's ALL down to how much they earn.
It also depends on what else is at stake.

Fury is champion of the world.
Fury is rated as number 1 HW in the world by everyone.
Fury has fame and market value outside of UK.
Beating Fury would take Whyte to a very high level.
And 20% of a Fury-Whyte would likely be around $5 million at the very least.

Personally, I think 25% is probably a good offer. But Whyte didn't want that either.

As for Joshua, he's a huge draw but with two losses in his last four and no titles, Whyte could demand a bit more than if it was otherwise.

I'm not a boxing economist and it's silly that we even have these discussions.
I'm just the man on the street who KNOWS that millions of dollars, pounds even, is a lot of money. And fighting for the heavyweight championship of the world is an opportunity of a lifetime.
To me, guys like Whyte come across as a bit greedy, a bit spoilt, and not the hungry challengers we can get behind.
I doubt Fury's much better but he gained respect when he went to Wlad's turf, then Wilder's, and grabbed the prize with both hands.

 

Getting tiresome this now tbh.purse bids been put back for a week.hopefully common sense prevails and they sit down and negotiate the 70/30 split..no one can complain with that surely.

 

Pretty much agree. 70/30,s around the figure they should be looking at and the figure whyte should be looking at as his lowest possible percentage.

Get the fight on i say. Outside of the top guys its hard to make a big case for anyone other than whyte. Fury obviously a big favourite but one thing i,ll say for dillian is hes competetive...he will be coming to win unlike a lot of guys out there atm.

 

Yeah however way you look at it it's fair/acceptable.whyte won't want to miss this opportunity and fury won't want to be forced to drop his belt so fingers crossed they get it done!it's been a ridiculous situation altogether.

 

For someone who doesn’t care about money, Fury sure as hell wants most of the purse lol. I honestly don’t know why he comes out with this stuff. He loves money. Just be honest.

70-30 is fair I think.

 

Bob Arum publicly offered 25% and a guarantee of $5.5 million and invited Whyte to negotiate off of that starting offer.
It seems like a fair starting offer. You would have to suspect that Whyte could work close to 30% from that.

But Whyte and Hearn started talking about 45% and all this ongoing legal action (God knows what it's about) and talking about leaving it to purse bids, then the WBC came up with 80-20 as the rate if it goes purse bids, based on the information supplied to them.

Boxing is corrupt as hell but this isn't a conspiracy against Whyte. It's just a poor handling of the situation by himself and his advisers.

I just hope they can sort it out. And honestly, I won't even care much for the fight. I just hope some of you guys who are saying Whyte needs all these extra millions, won't be moaning about his effort when he plods hopelessly through a rather boring one-sided fight.

 

Boom! Apparently he's a spartan/fighting man etc.

 

When Fury fought for his first world title he'd been English/British/European champion and received 20%. Don't really see the justification for Whyte turning down 25%.

 

That's fair enough, but I don't think Fury received 20%.

If Fury received 5m quid for the klitschko fight (reported this week in the Sun Newspaper) and it was common knowledge Klitschko took home 15m, then that is 25%-75%. Which is in-line with the WBO purse split guidelines. 80-20 is not in line with WBC guidelines on purse splits, neither is 75-25.

Tyson Fury was the WBO mandatory, by fighting him in Germany Fury was entitled to 25-75, fighting outside of German the split would be 20-80 by WBO rules. Dillian Whyte is the WBC mandatory and interim champion, historically Whyte would be entitled to 45-55. However those are old rules. Today’s guidelines lay-out splits ranging between 30-70 and 50-50. The WBC setting it 20-80 is clearly because they are not happy with Whyte, as they are going outside of their own guidelines.

You can say Fury was the English/British/European champion, but which of those pay WBC sanctioning fees? As I pointed out a page back, Fury has only just become the WBC champion and spent the majority of his time fighting on the WBO ladder.

Contrast that to Whyte who is/was WBC International/Silver/Interim champion, and has been fighting in WBC eliminators since 2016. That's a lot of sanctioning fees paid and time invested representing the WBC.

If you were in Whyte's position, might you not feel justified to say the WBC needs to stay within their own general guidelines on the purse splits and at a minimum give you 30%?

 

I think Whyte should be entilied to 27.87653% and I won't be happy unless he gets that exact amount.

28 pages on a ****ing purse split arguing over figures you dont even know are accurate.

Both sides arguing the same thing, both want more money but claim the other doesn't want the fight as THEY want more money. It's hilarious.

I wish Aydamn was here as atleast we would break 50 pages and some of it would be amusing.

 

You're not wrong, but what else are we supposed to talk about? There's fook all going on

 

None of the heavyweights (especially) actually fight so we discuss the issues around their non-fighting.
If this wasn't going on with Fury and Whyte, we'd probably be discussing why on earth Usyk and AJ rematch hasn't been confirmed and announced yet.

 

Spot on.