Fury/Whyte Split confirmed

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Arum has already suggested Whyte can come to the negotiations and work out a better percentage.
    Arum publicly stated that he offered 25% and 5.5 million guarantee, basic, as a starting offer. That was before the WBC decided 20% if it goes to purse bids.
    Obviously if Whyte's people negotiated direct with Arum, they'd be able to push it above that. Above 25% or 5.5 mill.

    Instead, Whyte wants to go to war with the WBC, perhaps endlessly.

    It's funny that you accuse fans of enabling Fury to duck Whyte, but from most accounts Whyte's been the one who's not willing to negotiate the fight direct.

    It's funny you put all the hopes on 'purse bids' but it's purse bids where the 20% comes in. If Whyte negotiated with Arum, he'd already be on significant more than 20%.

    This is what has been happening. Even Eddie Hearn explains it as Whyte's battle with the WBC. It's only on this forum that weirdos think it's all the fault of Tyson Fury. And find strange vague ways to prove it.

    Most "Fury fans" want him to fight Whyte next, unless he gets Usyk, no one's "enabling" a duck. But Whyte's tying the thing up in a big knot, so far, with his constant proceedings against the WBC.

    All sides agreeing this is what has been happening (outside of possible negotiations for unification). The only differences of opinion should be whether Whyte is right or wrong to spend his time and energy this way, or whether it will pay off for him. If he ends up pushing them to say 40% he's been vindicated anyway.

    The idea that Whyte is going through appeals because 'Fury wants to fight Charr' is some dumbass ****. Even if Fury turns out to be a piece of **** who wants to fight bums like Charr, that has nothing to do with Whyte going to war with the WBC.

    But crack on with it.
    Let the hate flow.
     
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  2. nurological

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  3. Murderers' Row

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    Good post.
     
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  4. Brumsongs

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    Imagine being so consumed with nonsense that you actually WANT Fury to take a poor opponent so that your opinion of him is confirmed. Desperate stuff.
     
  5. Furious

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    Bizarre isn’t it. I’ve never seen a fighter attract so many weirdos who seem to personally hate him as Fury does.
     
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  6. Ty is That Guy

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    And even after all that writing, Fury is still a con man and a fraud. Imagine that. 7 years since he beat Klitschko while on nandrolone and he only has 1 title defense. I could not care less if Whyte got 45% or 1%. I just want to see the best fight the best. Fury has 2 names on his entire resume and he's trying to avoid a third. Call it what you want, but seeking an opponent like Charr right now is absolute crap and you know it. What I "hate" is watching another year go by and the WBC champion is trying to duck his mandatory. It was Wilder for years and now it's Fury. Arum says a lot of things but trying to push that 20% on Whyte is a duck move and they know it. AJ has overpaid guys for years to make the fight. But somehow Fury can't do it? Mr. "I don't care about money"? Get the F outta here with that. If this were the IBF he would have been stripped. Just like he was when he ran from the Klitschko rematch.
     
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  7. Ty is That Guy

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    And I've never seen a guy with 1 title defense get awarded the title of GOAT either. Has there ever been another champion who has 1 title defense in 7 years? Has there ever been another champion who had to be taken to court twice within a year to make him fight someone decent?
     
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  8. Skyver

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    He is an overrated shyster even his fanboys will attest,but to solely blame him for this farce is idiotic.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    You can't even compute the plain facts.
    Arum, Fury have not been trying to push 20% on Whyte.
    The 20% is what the WBC say it will be if it goes to purse bids.
    You say you think 'purse bids' is bad news for Fury anyway, so you're not making any sense at all.

    You don't even have the most basic grasp of the situation enough to form a coherent convincing attack on Fury.

    You don't understand that official progress on the fight is being held up right now by Whyte and the WBC. You can't even begin to compute that ..... even though Dillian Whyte and Eddie Hearn are proud to admit it. :lol:


    The ball is in Whyte's court. He's stalling. Let's see him hit it back to Fury first. Fury hasn't even been given a chance to "duck", since it's clear Whyte has shown no interest in negotiating realistically with them.
     
  10. nurological

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    Hate clouds judgement. Have a day off, youll feel so much better.
     
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  11. Unforgiven

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    Facts don't matter when you've got so much hate.
     
  12. Brixton Bomber

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    But Tyson and his team want Helenius or Charr next. They have stated this publicly.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    They've also said they are willing to fight Whyte next. Arum was saying 25% and a guarantee, and inviting Whyte to negotiate publicly, before Helenius and Ruiz were even mentioned, nevermind Charr.

    Fury is saying he wants to fight someone soon. That's all.

    But Fury can't win with the haters anyway.
    * If he fights someone other than Whyte, to stay active, he'll get accused of ducking.
    * If he waits for Whyte to settle the thing with the WBC, he'll get the blame AND be accused of ducking, AND get called out for inactivity.
    * Even if he fights Usyk, he'll get hate for not defending against mandatory, not having a mindset to fight anything but the big fights. He will get hate for ducking Whyte.

    Before he's even done anything, he'll get hate. Then when he does something wrong, all the haters come out "we told you!" like it justifies the non-stop hate they been spewing at every turn. :lol:
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Honestly, if Fury wants to duck Whyte, let's see Whyte step up and take the fight, then that should expose Fury, right ?
    Let's see Fury duck Whyte before saying he ducked Whyte.

    It's Whyte who is turning down offers, rejecting negotiations, turning down millions, taking actions against the WBC to tie things up in a mess. Nobody outside of the "Fury Hater" cult on this forum says otherwise.
    Whyte might win the battle with the WBC and get a better 'purse bid split', or cripple them legally and financially and get some compensation, or whatever the aim is. So maybe from his point of view it is all worth.

    But we, the fans, just want to see boxing.
     
  15. Puroresu_Fan

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    Thats BS.

    The WBC came up with 20% figure as thats the number Arum requested.

    Or do you think its a coincidence that the WBC and Arum both came up with 20%?

    My issue with all this is the change in attitude towards Fury and AJ.

    Why is it AJ never had such issues with his mandatory defences. None of his mandatory opponents went to purse bids. None of them had negotiations drag on in such a manner as ultimately he paid the opponents what they wanted.

    Just look at the AJ v Wilder negotiating saga. On every metric possible AJ could argue that any split should be heavily in his favour.

    Yet the idea that AJ could demand the majority split was deemed by many as nothing but trying to duck the fight.

    I didn't see previous purses being argued like we see with Fury v Whyte.

    Just look at the £300K Whyte supposedly got in his last fight which is being used to support the argument when that number wasn't even the purse Whyte recieved.

    It's pretty ridiculous for anyone to actually believe that Whyte only recieved £300k.
     
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