Fury will do to Usyk what Haney did to Loma

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    @MAD_PIGE0N @spravedlivylev I'm talking to you privately and it's all "yeah done fine leave it" and then you're still at it in this thread. You're not giving me just a whole lot of options at this point.
     
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  2. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, he'll lose.
     
  3. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma is more skilled, even Usyk would admit it
     
  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    In your wet dreams pal.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    @spravedlivylev PM'd me the screenshots the other day and I can confirm the authenticity of them and the do contain what he claims
     
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  6. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The duck_pigeon has taken a few minutes away from the Fury Phallus to get owned again.
     
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  7. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I don't think you are being fair here. You did talk to me privately, but at no point did I say anything along the lines of "yeah done fine I'll leave it" as you insinuate here. I contacted you about a fellow member breaching my privacy. You agreed and took action, then advised me to put said member on ignore, to which I replied to you how he was still insulting me and how "kids will be kids" and then thanked you for your help. That was the end of our conversation. You never said "well, I'll deal with his continued escalating of the situation" or, "I ask you to not respond to his continued insults". None of that happened. But now, when I responded to said insults, you pull a "you are equally at fault here, kids, I told you to behave, you agreed but you are still at it" act. I don't like being wrongly accused of being a liar so I responded to the member in question, and I also don't like my privacy being breached. It's a bit disappointing to see that my responding to the member who breached my privacy and then kept insulting me resulted in your message suggesting a 50/50 comparative responsibility. I'm not even sure how a member can still be active after committing a privacy breach, to begin with, but what do I know?

    I'm not going to talk about this matter publicly or privately any more, so that's the end of it from me. I wanted to clear the air about you implying that I said and promised something to you in private only to do something else publicly.

    Cheers, I'm glad that's settled then.
     
  8. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    The point is I don't care (I even agree to accept the authenticity of something that's actually public and is viewed by thousands of people probably and is easy to prove with a link, which is way more authentic than screenshots - you know, something you post publicly isn't really private). And I'm sorry that you and others from the staff have been bothered about such an infantile story (that seems to continue with the full insolence of the "innocent") I was dragged in without the chance to reject it even. But I made a promise to @McGrain and I'll keep it.

    @hobby rider, go ride what you're most concerned about, you can form a pro-Usyk "train".
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You wrote:

    "Now he is barking about how I "whined" to you, but hey-ho, kids will be kids"

    Which seems to imply you will leave the exchange with him alone in public.

    If I'm mistaken, I apologise.

    However: leave the exchange with him alone in public.
     
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  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Duly noted, I will comply.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What, get beat and receive a giftwraped decision.
     
  12. Richard M Murrieta

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  13. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I noticed something about both Loma & Usyk that they'll clock you with good combos, seriously disorient you and then back off for what looks like no reason. Is it admiring their work, running out of gas slightly, conserving energy, or still amateur ingrained habit since they had long amateur careers. Usyk had AJ on the verge of stoppage in the first fight and let off when there was no point in energy saving. In the second fight he also had AJ in trouble and backed off, he's fortunate there were good judges but it might cost you other times especially if you go against top rank fighters. He could've got robbed in the 2nd AJ fight.

    Loma jumps around sometimes for no reason when he should be punching (think Pac against bigger fighters, although against May he couldn't do much), you'd be wasting too much energy. There are times in the pros where you have to set your feet and tee off, then use slight head & body movement for defense. Even Bradley and them were saying at one point that he had his best success coming forward and punching in bunches but he'd the back off and hop around. It's not like Haney can blow you out with one hook or uppercut in between your punches like Tank. Loma also has the hand speed advantage when it came to combos. He's had over 400 fights, you have recognize moments & balance it perfectly by now. 12th round should've been him leaving everything in the ring and going for the ko. Usyk may have to come to a similar point against Fury where he has to close so even if he thinks he has it in the bag, it might not be with the judges.

    Last thing, yes Usyk will not have an easy time against someone that tall & mobile like Fury but on the flip side Fury has not looked great against lefties lesser than Usyk. A huge mistake Fury is making is not staying active and he could have gotten 2 lefties as practice by now. A true champ mentality goes for improvement and taking challenges, he should've rematched Wallin. You don't go from Whyte & Chisora to 1 year of inactivity, to Usyk, who is still the fastest, craftiest and most stamina endowed challenger he has. The usual pressure Fury does would be less effective against someone like Usyk with tremendous footwork, and he'd most likely eliminate Fury's jab from the equation. It would then be just chasing the rabbit trying to hit him with rights that he can see or would have to use a lot of body & inside work if you catch him.