Fury will easily win the rematch

Usyk has already spoken about watching the fight back, seeing his mistakes and noting what adjustments that he needs to make. It’s not just Fury who’s allowed to be better next time.

 

Easily? No.
But he definitely has a good chance of winning with the right discipline and preparation.

 

That was Fury's best chance.

Fury's declining faster than Usyk.
Fury's less disciplined in training than Usyk.

And perhaps most importantly... Usyk learned more from that fight - Fury's not likely to be able to adapt enough to surprise Usyk, which means in all likelihood it'll be Usyk who

The superior ring IQ of the Usyk supercomputer well and truly has the Fury algorithm solved.

 

Yes, he can win the rematch, expecially with the current version of Usyk, who is clearly past his prime. With the Gassiev or Briedis or Huck version Fury wouldn't stand much of a chance.
But in the first bout Fury didn't "dominate" anything: he had 3 good rounds, notably the 6th, other 3 rounds close (2,7,12) and that's it.

 

Fury is declining faster than usyk? I agree, but many on this forum think despite his terrible lifestyle, he is improving with age, while usyk is declining

Both are definitely declining, as both rely on their movement, speed etc

I do think Usyk makes the necessary adjustments, forces Fury to become more wreckless and stops him by rounds 7-8

 

Yes because in boxing it's definitely just as easy as you make it out to be.

Same thing was said about AJ in the rematch......"he just needs to make a few adjustments, just needs to let his hands go, needs to get away from Mccracken" blah blah blah. Heard it all before, not interested.

 

I don’t see the rematch being any different and in fact I think Fury gets KOed.

 

Plenty hold myths for Fury - in internet slang, it's "pure copium" - just an excuse to cling into the idea that Fury's capable of winning the rematch... It's easier than climbing down from the pedestal they've put him on - and not everyone's as honest as yourself in that regard!

Definitely - much as you'd expect for both of their lifestyles (Usyks huge number of amateur+pro fights, Fury's coke and massive weight fluctuations) on top of their age.

That would be my guess, too - Fury knows he can't clinch without risking counters now, so he'll have to have different plans... But I just think Usyk learned more and got the measure of Fury - he's the superior intellect in and out of the ring, and it'll show IMHO.

 

Respectfuly, Fury best assets arw his height, reach and size. And this doesn't decline with age.
Everything else Fury has, which is not small is bonus.
And looking at their usual punch output and the pace the fight took place, this was onw of the best Fury showing, punching output wise.

What still keeps Fury somehow in fresh is exactly his lazy style as he didn't put much miles in hard and draining camps.
Which is one of the reason he had so much poor showings and not take hard fights on consistent bases. If he was, his record would be different.
Still he is on that age, that you can get old overnight.
Bit he had an year+ essentialy to prepare and put the absolutely best and more sweet stuff to be at his best and his team and his fans prior to the fight claimed this would be the best ever.
So people should not backtrack down on this.
Usyk doesn't have the height, weight and huge reach advantage, neither being 19 months younger. Also wasting so much energy in camps and being constant professional +had a lot more harder fights in terms of opponents, doesn't help at all. Not wven going to mention the 350 amateur fight that put insane amount of wear and tear.
And im certain he is an clean athlete as well, which makes night and day difference.
Following Usyk since his first day and his decline just feom AJ1 to Fury is huge. I don't see much decline in Fury, if any.
To be fair to him i expected him to be worst. I admit i was wrong. And i expect sharper Usyk in terms of declining. Was wrong still.
In Usyk I notice a slight change against Dubois and a lot lower punch output, but i thought it was cause of the opponent and the wet canvas, cause of the rain. Wrong again.
Anyone no one to blame thw fight not happening 2 years ago, but Fury, when Usyk would have been way more in decent shape. Same for Fury. He would have been 33, not 35.

P. P. This ain't poke at you, just stating what i see baaed on carefully watching for decline sign.

 

BTW, the biggest problem for Fury going into the rematch is that Usyk figures him out and dominates after Round 6. Fury had his moments in round 5 and 6, but he never was able to adapt and comes with something new after that, which means he was figured out, and has nothing else to offer.
If it was the opposite, aka Usyk to dominates the first and middle part of the fight and then Fury figures him out and comes stronger, then surely Fury spirit would be way higher going into the rematch.
He also now knows Usyk can hurt and KO him, and that feeling won't leave him alone. He also knows that he doesn't have the cardio to stay with Usyk.
He may try Wilder 2 approach now, but that will play into Usyk's hands and taking punches going forward it's equally to punches hurt and damage you 2x. more.

 

If I make a few adjustments, I could become a millionaire in 5 years, that simple.

 

Maybe, he did better in the rematches with McDermott, Chisora and Wilder, so he clearly has the ability to raise his level when required and learn from the first fight.

But Usyk is the one fighter with a ring IQ to surpass Fury and he presents no obvious weaknesses to exploit. They tried going to the body and while he had some success it wasn't the fight winning strategy many thought it would be.

Will be interesting to see what Fury does in a rematch. Boxing Usyk didn't work, he's too effective at cutting off the ring and outworking Fury. Will he double down and try to come in lighter and fitter and hope he can do a better job of controlling range by being lighter on his feet and moving more. Though that risks draining his tank even quicker. Will he come in heavier and try to back Usyk up, try and impose his size and strength, dangerous strategy given Usyk clearly is the puncher of the two. But it might be something Usyk doesn't expect and throw him off for a few rounds. Whatever Fury does he has to do something different because what he's done before against everyone else did not work against Usyk.

 

The wilder 2 approach is definitely not happening as you have said

Fury would need an iron jaw for that to work, as he will be eating counters left right and centre, as unlike Wilder, Usyk can actually box and has shown he has enough power to ko Fury

I was one of the biggest supporters of Fury, because I believed he would find a way. However, you have to say when you are wrong and I was in this instance massively

I think Fury did as well as he could first time round. I honestly don't believe he can better his performance. While I believe Usyk with the higher I.q and the experience of fighting someone that much longer, can make adjustments

I honestly believe usyk will stop him this time, like he should have round 9

Fury will be knocked out rounds 7-8 and will retire immediately imo. No chance does he go straight into a fight with Joshua, unless for a quick money grab and he gets stopped hard

This will be Furys last fight, while I think Usyk will capture titles again at CW before he retires

 

I'm not sure Wilder is the best example - yes he learned just how basic Wilder was, but more than anything he raised his performance for the rematch purely by getting fitter... And that's not an option, here.

It's not that Fury's thick - he can and does learn... But he also often leaves plenty of headroom to raise his game simply by not fighting at 100% - this is different, he knew he'd need to be at his absolute best and he was.

It's also worth bearing in mind how the fight went - Fury got some measure of how he thought he needed to fight and made adjustments. Made progress for a couple of rounds before Usyk made adjustments and dominated the rest of the fight.

Can Fury find ways to learn Usyk without fighting Usyk?
And can he find ways to adapt to Usyk's inevitable adjustments in a way that he couldn't in the first fight?

We'll find out (if he actually gets in there) - but I strongly suspect not.

 

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