Fury will easily win the rematch

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  1. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's funny how styles make fights, Fury has always been the one that can see out 12 rounds comfortably against all his other opponents but now up against Usyk the gas tank looks ****.
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    So only Usyk ages?
     
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  3. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    The problem with this argument is that Fury's basically always sloppy - he very rarely avoids making multiple mistakes and can't really control it..

    I don't see Fury doing better in the rematch - if anything he'll do significantly worse, IMHO.
     
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At no point in time did Fury dominate any aspect of that fight....................
     
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    I doubt
     
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  6. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't make these mistakes in the second Wilder fight. He was 100% focussed throughout.

    As far as I see it, he has four things to address.

    1) Showboating - that shouldn't be a problem.

    2) Having his hands down - that could be rectified in training.

    3) Right hand leads - another that can be worked on in training.

    4) Tappy tap punches - perhaps the hardest to address, especially in the later rounds if he's tired by which time Usyk might be doing the same thing or be too tired to properly capitalise when Fury does it.

    2, 3 and 4 all led to what happened in round 9.

    If he applies the same tactics as he did in the second Wilder fight then I think Fury has a good chance but I'll be cheering for Usyk.
     
  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Against a second rate opponent who lacked the ability to put him in a position to make mistakes...

    Admittedly he's made plenty against worse opponents - but arguably Wilder 2 is one of the few occasions he trained hard for a mediocre opponent.

    I would add one more particularly glaring one:

    5) Address his flabby core - work to the body ground Fury down more than it did to Usyk.

    Honestly I think if he tries that, he gets a particularly bad beating - and he'd be forced into making unplanned adjustments... At which point we already know that Usyk can out-adjust him.

    I don't honestly see a realistic route to a win - especially if he's not looking after himself.
     
  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I am assuming you mean he needs to throw more right hand leads. When he tried it in round 12, it seemed to work.
     
  9. PillowFists

    PillowFists New Member Full Member

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    He has a blueprint to beat Usyk with. Within the middle rounds he was really laying on him, especially pressing up.
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Fury had power he could incorporate it, but at this point he is going to have to fight a completely different fight tactically just to make it a pickem fight to throw Usyk off, which he cannot really do. Maybe trying a Hagler vs. Hearns tactic where he goes for broke and gets Usyk out of his rhythm and goes to the body. i don't know.
     
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Exactly - the big question is whether he has the tools to do it, without significant power... And whether he can adjust effectively to counter the adjustments Usyk WILL make.

    It's a difficult one for Fury - I'm not sure there's realistically much he could do to have a much better end result.
     
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  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Couple of problems with all that. One, Wilder isn't Usyk, either stylistically or quality-wise. Two, Fury likely can never get back to that form again so the best he can achieve is some feeble shadow of that fighter against a vastly better and more versatile opponent. I'm sure you see the problem there. Three, Usyk is great on the backfoot and opening up on him would massively leave Fury more vulnerable against a man who's never seriously been hurt or dropped and leave his gastank completely spent by around the seventh or eighth rounds.

    Being aggressive against Usyk didn't net him his best moments in the first fight. Feinting, moving, keeping Usyk on the end of his jab, turning him, and leading him onto uppercuts, then mixing in the odd bit of body work. Those are the tactics he had success with. Basically keep Usyk guessing and unable to really commit to anything. Trouble is that type of style is extremely draining both mentally and physically because you're burning through nervous energy at a frenetic rate. It's also not something you can afford to keep doing for the whole twelve rounds because Usyk will adapt; ideally you need two or three phases to counter the (probable) changes that Usyk will make. All of that takes great conditioning, and at this stage I don't know how much Fury's got left to give, even if he lives and trains like a Spartan from here to fight night.

    At best I can see Fury laying it all on the line early, having some success, then gassing out or walking onto a big shot and getting stopped mid-rounds. At worst he turns up to survive and gets battered about and soundly outpointed (and maybe still stopped, though later in the fight).
     
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I seriously doubt they'll even be a rematch....
     
  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Come on...Fury won the middle rounds by faking Usyk out with feints, jabbing effectively with his huge reach advantage, and moving around very well.

    Then he got hit.
     
  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes, he "won" 4,5 and 6 on my scorecard. But he definitely didn't "dominate" those rounds. Once Usyk readjusted.............that was the end of his limited success
     
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