Fury (Wlad fight) Vs. Usyk (Fury fight)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ikrasevic, Dec 12, 2024.


Who wins and how?

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  1. Fury KO

  2. Fury decision

  3. draw

  4. Usyk KO

  5. Usyk decision

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury didn't fight for 3 years, balloned up in weight and was 28 stone at some stage

    No other fighter was as great after 3 years off, especially when abusing the body

    I think that version Fury beats this usyk, but to be fair, usyk is 37, so he is past it too, so it doesn't matter

    I will go Fury points, because it's clear he's not lived the life of a fighter and nobody can be at their peak after what he did

    Usyk is smaller and older, but he has lived the boxing life

    Fury ud

    Anyway they fight next week for real
     
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  3. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas banned Full Member

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    Fury is the common denominator in this vote which is an indication as to where your heads at regarding creating this vote off.

    6 foot 9, 265 pounds, previous WBC champion.

    Fury, easy, TKO win.
     
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  4. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Fury (Wlad fight), depending on how good his chin is at that moment, would be a nightmare for any HW champion; H2H.
    Too mobile, active, cautious, provocative, without fear.
    A nightmare in the sense that hardly any opponent would outbox Wlad Fury; beat him on points.
    And depending on whether he has a great chin, it would be difficult to defeat such a Fury by knockout.
    IMHO Fury (Wlad fight) would win on points peak Lennox Lewis 2000.
    Depending on how Fury (Wlad fight) would handle Lewis uppercuts (Vitali fight).
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    That version of Fury gets unduly mythologized; most people forget Fury's form h2h was hardly that of some immortal ATG heading in. He wasn't far removed from some pretty poor performances (hurt by Joey Abell, gift over Cunningham).

    Wlad got in his own head and defeated himself, really. Fury did well to soundly outbox the gunshy version of Wlad that was put in front of him, but people retroactively crediting him with beating the best possible Dr. Steelhammer are a bit out of touch with reality. It wasn't that Klitschko was shot per se (as shown when he went to was with Joshua) but that he was already infected with self-doubt and then completely thrown for a loop by Fury's awkward style, and basically shat the bed and gave the fight away.


    Usyk UD.
     
  6. tinman

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    I actually give Fury more credit than most people do for that victory. Even though Wlad was old, he wasn't ancient for a HW. And he's always been gun shy and filled with self doubt. Ever since he got thrashed by Corrie Sanders and Brewster he's been a grabbing, negative octopus. Jab, grab, hump, muck it up, then massive right hander or left hook and it's over. Basically, that's what Wlad did for a decade. Meh. It worked for him so can't disupte the effectiveness. Take away his height and size advantage and he didn't know what to do against Fury. It was always going to be a bad styles matchup for Wlad because the jab, grab and hump wouldn't work against Fury's height and movement.
     
  7. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I think a lot of people forget that fight was a great example of timing in boxing. Fury didn't really school Wlad, he just beat an ageing fighter who was on the decline. Credit to Fury for a very good performance but that fight was all about timing. Yes he probably got inside Wlads head, but Wlad had personal issues going into the fight on the back of a previous bad performance (Jennings). It was his 68th pro fight after 19 years from turning over from a successful amateur career winning Olympic Gold.

    That fight was all about timing. Countless examples of this happening in boxing history.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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  9. highlander

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    yes, fury won that fight against wlad. but people forget that it was one of the most BORING heavy title fights in history. fury did not smash wlad or anything to make a statement. he only threw and landed more punches. neither man hurt one another, AT ALL. so, it says something that fury pissed on the rematch and took himself off the map for three years. and if you were to have a time machine and give usyk the same age as then, it would still be a good fight between the two of them.
     
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  10. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Fury knew it and ducked the rematch.
     
  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury by points. His style and technique has suffered under Sugar Hill imo.
     
  12. kirk

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    Prime Fury vs past prime Usyk?

    Probably Fury.

    Prime Fury vs Prime Usyk?

    Usyk.
     
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  13. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on what you'd consider a prime Fury/Usyk.
     
  14. GarethUmmDavies

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    obviously Fury 2015 would win considering he only lost by a point.
     
  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the 27-year-old version of Fury who had fast hands and was light on his feet whilst retaining his massive size advantage would be too much for the 37-year-old version of Usyk. I suspect that version would have won a decision quite comfortably tbh (and possibly eeks out a decision against prime-Usyk, too). But, this is just fantasy, and that version of Fury existed for all of 12 to 18 months before self-destructing. When they finally met, in reality, for all the marbles, Fury lost.