Fury would still beat prime Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis, Usyk is just the goat

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali and Lewis have never delt with something like Usyk. Just because Fury lost doesn't mean they could beat him. 6'9, 270 pounds of gypsy gorilla yetti strength, moves like Sugar ray leonard, jab of Thomas Hearns, iq like Mayweather. Fury is still a H2H nightmare. Oleksandr the great has a style completely alien to them. High iq Eastern European southpaw with workrate and slickness like never before seen. The only fighter in history who could beat Usyk and Fury is prime Mike Tyson
     
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  2. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Prime H2H, who’s to say?

    Personally, the Fury that beat Klitschko would be too elusive for any version of Usyk, that version of Fury would beat any heavyweight in history but no denying would be lacking in action.

    The Fury that beat Wilder in their second fight would walk through any version of Usyk and stop him late rounds.

    The current version of Usyk is clearly a better fighter than the current version of Fury.
     
  3. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Prime Peter McNeeley beats Usyk IMO
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Fury would have no chance at all against Lennox.

    Lewis could lose to fighters he had no business losing to, but they'd have to pack decent power and have a credible punchers chance - Fury realistically just wouldn't.

    And on points? No, just no.
     
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  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Cmon, this is just nonsense that only miniq on a deliberate trolling mission would even try to say with a straight face.

    Bulldozing through a one-trick massively overhyped fringe contender and doing the same to a legit ATG with serious skills and a superior ring IQ are lightyears apart.
     
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  6. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Yeah I think he’d pretty much bulldoze him and stop him mid-late rounds.

    What about the Fury that beat Klitschko? He’d make a mockery out of every heavyweight that ever stepped in the ring.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    You don't honestly hold that up as a beacon of great boxing?!
     
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  8. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    It was a dominant, convincing win against the unified heavyweight champion at the time that had reigned for a decade.
     
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  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It was an ugly win littered with excessive clinching on both sides... And it wasn't as dominant as all that.

    Beyond which, Wlad was desperate for the rematch because he felt he could have done so much better - whilst Fury didn't want it and, by his own admission, had to be perfect and mistake-free to pull it off.

    There's a heck of a lot of revisionist history around that fight - it doesn't mean nearly as much as Fury fans think it does, he'd have had to take and win the rematch for it to do that.

    Plenty of underdogs have surprised a dominant champion - and plenty have lost the rematch and it's showed itself for the fluke it was... Avoiding the rematch avoids the potential for the world to see the truth.
     
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  10. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Come back and post once ur sober!!! New Year and its the same dribble from the usual suspects.
     
  11. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    “270 pounds of gypsy gorilla yetti strength, moves like Sugar ray leonard, jab of Thomas Hearns, iq like Mayweather”

    hahaha.
    Is this fury’s wish list for Santa?
     
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  12. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Lennox would have beaten the **** out of Fury and stopped him
     
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  13. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Idk about beat but Fury would give any heavyweight in history a tough fight which is why Usyk beating him twice is so impressive imo
     
  14. GBoxingFeed

    GBoxingFeed Active Member Full Member

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    I tend to think Lewis would get to Fury at some point and hurt him, and that would be the fight right there after some tricky moments.

    Ali, for all he is a better fighter overall, would have a terrible terrible time with Fury and would lose either by wide points or KO. Just my opinion though!
     
  15. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Klitschko was slow AF at that point.