Fury would still beat prime Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis, Usyk is just the goat

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  1. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For greatness I agree Fury isn't on there level.

    But when Fury did step up in competition he still fought at a high level in my opinion against Uysk/Wilder/Wlad. I am not even saying Fury would beat them but he has the attributes to cause problems.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder win has aged like milk it's debatable whether or not he was even top 5 of this era. Fury was also dropped 4 times in 3 fights vs Wilder I'd say only 1 of those fights was fought at a good level which was the 2nd fight the other 2 fights Fury looked very beatable.
     
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  3. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah Wilder hasn't been the same fighter in his last two losses. I think Fury was generally in good form all 3 but his peak was the 2nd and he took the first legit just coming back with that weight loss. I don't think it ages as badly as people think but a little perhaps but the Wilder who faced Zhang and Parker was not the same Wilder in my opinion.
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think it ages a lot worse than you think...

    For starters, Wilders win column is horribly lacking - his best win, Ortiz, arguably wasn't ever a contender and even if he was, he was old by the time Wilder struggled with him.

    For seconds... The fact Fury won/should've won the third and first fights with Wilder says a lot about how special Wilder wasn't. You can't afford to handicap yourself with poor condition against top fighters, and Fury did it twice with different styles against Wilder without losing - if Wilder was anywhere near what he was made out to be, that simply wouldn't have been possible.
     
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  5. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol, sure but this kid fought professionally for 10yrs, mostly MMA but I also boxed and kick boxed as a professional. Oh and before I turned pro I had about 20 amateur boxing fights with a Silver and a Bronze in the nationals in my country at the time.

    Pls explain to me with your expert knowledge what really happened in Fury vs Wlad since they barley touched each other for you to say it was anything but a lackluster disappointment of a championship fight.
     
  6. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali or Tyson destroy him.

    id favour the Canadian but he’s pretty overrated and wouldn’t be surprised if Fury where to beat him
     
  7. joset420

    joset420 New Member Full Member

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    Ali would you with Fury
     
  8. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Good argument, I’ll get back in my box now, I didn’t realise I was speaking to a legitimate pugilist.

    I like getting tucked in at 11.30pm and getting a blowjob at 12.30am.
     
  9. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good comeback, but yeah, you should stay in your gimp box for good because boxing is not your thing.
     
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  10. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    If you don't mind me asking, what's your professional record in MMA and boxing?
     
  11. Vic925

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    prime Wlad beats any version of Fury
    Prime Usyk schools any version of Fury
     
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  12. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually do mind but only 1 fight in boxing as a professional, 19-4 as a kickboxer and 9-3 in MMA but still was raked in the top 30 in the world.
     
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  13. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Did you win your one boxing match?
     
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  15. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To a degree it has aged worse. It's still a good and trilogy in my book though.