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They were flash knockdowns though mate, not leg wobblers. He got back up and beat them. If he did this against Wilder then he would be floored but guaranteed he would take him very seriously.

 

Interesting I actually thought he had been down more than twice, I watched a good interview with Peter Fury a good while ago regarding Fury being knocked down, he said Tyson began to " get it " soon after the Cunningham fight where he remained switched on for full 12 rounds , said it took Peter a while to build this into Tysons game.

I presume Peter only took over as coach of Tyson well into his pro career?

 

The whole thing is not just that it's the same punch, but that it came against relatively light hitters.

It's Wilder's money punch, and everyone understands that if those land Fury probably won't get up from it.

 

Pointless taking anything from these fights. It's like trying to figure our Wlad by watching his early losses.

Completely different fighters to then and now

 

Exactly but the haters wont hear it though...they always bang on about how Cunningham put Fury on his backside but look how the fight turned out...Cunningham getting ktfo! If anything Fury getting put down woke him up...i understand that if Wilder lands a bomb on ANYONES chin they going down...but he wont land it on the gypsy king. Fury will dance around the ring for 12 rounds jabbing him, avoiding the big shots and win by UD...then people will complaing how Fury is boring and he "ran" all night.

 

Im not really a fan of Fury to be honest. I can see Wilder landing at some point and he does carry his power later into fights also which is a big problem for Fury. However Fury does know how to roll with the punches, as shown against Wlad so he may not absorb all the power but, and again there are plentys of buts, Wilder is very unorthodox in his approach and wil throw from anywhere.

Its such an intriguing match up.

 

Interestingly enough Wilder has been dropped twice in his career from carnival fat men- Dustin Nicholls and Harold Sconiers.

In selling this fight that’s an angle that Tyson Fury will inevitably use.

 

Wilder has lights out cold, legs shaking kind of power.

 

Sometimes, sometimes not.

He hit Duhaupas with the kitchen sink before the ref jumped in, and wilder was literally JUMPING off the floor loading up with every shot.

It's a bit of a myth that one right hand is an instant lights out from him. Szpilka is probably the best ko he has but he's chinny.

Not saying he's not a big puncher, and quick too. But I feel like Fury has a "couple of lives" as long as he doesn't get hit clean with any regularity

 

It's unusual for a fighter to improve as time goes on, but the Wlad that fought AJ was better in my view. I doubt it could be physical, he was older after all, but possibly psychologically he gained a boost from being a challenger with nothing to lose rather than a 10 year defending champion, on his home turf with everything stacked in hs favour. Maybe that change in status helped him to throw more and fight to win rather than not to lose.

 

Watched Wilder v Ortiz again last night. This is just an opinion but I felt that he really struggled to deal with a southpaw and Ortiz had a lot of success with the counter shots. Another fight he really struggled in was Szpilka who was another southpaw. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he got outboxed in them fights until the other lads got greedy. Fury will surely be fighting the majority of this fight as a southpaw...a southpaw not chasing the knockout like his predecessors.

 

I don't see Fury walking square on into Wilder's wheelhouse or clowning him with his hands down in range like he did against Cunningham. He didn't dare do either of these things versus Vlad. He did this back then because he didn't respect his opponent's ability to hurt him, and learned the hard way. Also, these are overhands from smaller fighters, a little different to Wilder's straight right from a tall man, whether that makes Wilder's easier or harder to defend for Fury I don't know, but it's not quite the same punch.

 

Some good points re: southpaws, and wilder