Furys accepts Wilders invite

I'm not a big fan of Fury to be honest but even I can see that he is a class above Wilder. The American has basically fought nobody with any threat at all and has still not shone whereas Fury to be fair at least has a good win ver Chisora to his name. Honestly, I fail to see how anybody could pick Wilder if the fight were to materialise, despite the doubts surrounding how far Tyson can go. He's a lot more proven than Wilder.

Regarding Price-Fury, the fight was always unlikely to happen because of the TV contracts. But after talking a LOT about how he would do this and do that to Price, Fury was ultimately the one who backed out of the fight when he vacated the belts. His excuse about facing better opposition has been proven to be a joke so truthfully, he's came out of the whole episode looking worse.

TV contracts are important of course but for the sake of one fight, compromises can always be reached. Especially if Fury was so desperate to take on Price as he claimed he was

 

Wilder is dangerous but pretty beatable, he not only telegraphs the jab but leans right in after he throws it. Any big right hands permitting id fully expect Fury to comfortably outpoint Wilder.

 

Fury's opposition besides Chisora has been no more than average and he has looked worse than Wilder has albeit against weaker opposition. Beck and Manswell aren't that behind Fury's opponents excluding Chisora and Wilder has totally dominated them.

Don't forget Fury lost to McDermott in their first fight who is a very average fighter. He also got knockdown by the feather fisted Pajkic and seriously hurt by a journeyman in Firtha. Fury has shown a lot of vulnerability so far as a professional and hasn't looked like a dominating force many make him out to be.

Wilder has been boxing for a very short period of time so he had to take the opposition slow as a result otherwise he would have got KO'd if he had stepped up the level too quickly. Now he has learnt a lot of things in the gym he is developing as a fighter. He is also getting decent sparring with some top guys so that is only going to develop him further.

End of the day if Pajkic can put Fury down imagine what Wilder could do

 

yep 100% agree imo

 

Lets be honest they both have there flaws but Fury really lets his hands go for a heavy weight he suprised me against Firtha put in some classy combinations and i think Fury is getting better and better, I dont agree with you about opposition Wilder has been very sloppy. I would put my money on Tyson he's true to his word he is a fighting man and if he ever got a shot at a world title he will go out and leave it all in the ring..
People are gonnar hate..

 

Wilder's opponents have been terrible, not just poor, but terrible. Looking good against them means almost nothing. Fury has performed at a much higher level.

You say that Wilder has only been boxing a very short period of time...how long exactly do you think Fury has been boxing? Pretty similar time and experience if you care to look, certainly not a discrepancy that justifies the gulf in quality of opponents.

Also:

"At the end of the day, if Harold Sconiers (17-20-2, lol) can put Wilder down, imagine what Fury can do."

In all seriousness, I think it would be a decent fight, but we have not seen Wilder in with anyone would can really let us judge him to the same level has Fury has performed. He may well turn out to be better, but you have to have blinkers on to not see this happen time and time again in boxing, looking great against the lowest levels of journeymen and suddenly looking much worse when the competition steps up. As it stands, Fury has a lot going for him in this fight, and I would expect him to win.

 

Pretty sure Fury and Wilder turned pro around exactly the same time .. so that's no excuse for Wilder and his shitty opposition, also,Mcdermott might be average but i'd put money on him to beat the brakes off of Wilder.

Fury has only shown vulnerability when his stupidity gets the upper hand, when he's focussed he is the goods and would absolutely batter Wilder who has only looked as good as he has based on the woeful level of fighter he's been in with allowing him to look like the next big thing.Don't think for one second Fury wouldn't have wins over every one of Wilder's opponents.
The same could not be said for Wilder however,Chisora beats him as does Mcdermott IMO.

 

You're overrating Wilder's opposition. Fury has fought Chisora, fringe world class/gatekeeper type in the poor Heavyweight division, but others as well who aren't great (Rogan/Maddalone/Pajkic) but who are a step up on most of Wilder's opponents, perhaps Maxwell aside. Even Zack Page for God's sake is a tougher opponent than the majority of Wilder's.

As I said, I don't think Fury's particularly great. But ever since being a prospect, he has been matched relatively tough in a pretty weak division. Wilder hasn't.

The bit in bold is based on what exactly? That's just conjecture. By not fighting any one remotely threatening, how can we know how much he's progressed?

The final sentence has already been made reduntant by another poster by comparing the joker who put Wilder down. Perhaps Wilder could beat him but there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest he's a better fighter than Fury yet or could step it up in levels and take on competitive opponents. Picking him in a potential fight is just based on guesswork really, there's not a lot of logic to justify it.

It's a bit like the David Lemieux hype train which crashed and burned once he stepped it up. Maybe he'll do better but don't be so sure of it

 

At the end of the day a lot of people are going to pick wilder because he's a black american, and we do love our black americans on here (Steve bunce even pointed it out)

To the guy saying (if pajvcic put him down blah blah blah) I'm not sure what that's got to do with anything, he put fury down with an overhand right, which wilder doesn't even throw, and Wilder himself has been on the canvas Twice against bums, considering he's been down more than fury against vastly inferior opposition and has a neck and legs like pipe cleaners, I'd bank on fury being more solid

Then again he's got a trainer who wears a baseball cap and calls him "baby" and "champ" So he must be **** hot

 

It is a close fight and I'm not hating on Fury in any way I think he is a solid contender but I just can't see him progressing to the World level. Fury has been looking better because his opposition has been getting worse and I think that is a contributing factor to his impressive recent performances

 

Wilder opposition has been poor but Manswell and Beck are not terrible fighters and I think they would stand a good chance against most of Fury's opposition tbh.

They turned pro around the same time yes but Fury had been involved in amateur boxing for a long time so had some fundamentals in place. Wilder first picked up boxing gloves two years before the 2008 Olympics that is not long at all when you consider someone like Fury had been having amateur fights for a long time.

There is still a lot to prove about Wilder and obviously noone knows whether he will truly progress much past the level he is at, but I just see something in him which makes me think he will do so, time will tell I guess.

 

McDermott would not stand a chance against Wilder, Wilder hits too hard and McDermott wouldn't be able to get past Wilder's jab to punish him.

If it happend once you could put in down to stupidity but McDermott, Pajkic and Firtha have all seriously troubled Fury and for someone with such few fights to be troubled by so many opposition you have to wonder what is causing that. You can say stupidity but Fury has shown nothing to say that won't happen again in a future fight which it will, he has to control that stupidity if he is to progress further. Yes Fury would beat every one of Wilder's opponents that doesn't mean he is better than him does it? Wilder would beat McDermott no question, but the Chisora which faced Fury I would bet on Wilder handling him with relative ease.

 

Wilder's last two opponents have been as good as anything Fury has faced bar Chisora. So I really don't think the gulf in class is that great like you are making out.

The competition Wilder has faced hasn't been down to him it has been down to poor management on GoldenBoy's part.

He has been sparring against top heavy's so that is obviously going to teach him something significant every time. Also he is starting to establish more of a jab which will be key as he moves up levels, and is starting to add a bit of bulk (not enough mind) but still abit which is all steps in the right direction.

It is partly guesswork no doubt but the way he has looked so far I just get the feeling he is going onto much better things. Maybe he won't go much further but as I said I just see the jab and power accounting for a lot of opponents in the future.

 

I heard David Haye skimmed wilder in sparring and they had to send the poor kid home

 

Of course ha, who you hear that from