Defeating an old Wlad is comparable to Marciano defeating old Louis, a win for which Marciano gets no props and neither should Fury. Wilder is constantly disparaged in here and everywhere else as a poor boxer, having bad footwork, no jab, no decent plans except for Plan A which is land a big right hand. Yes defeating Wilder compares favorably with top wins of ATG HWs? Usyk is by anyone's estimation an ATG Cruiserweight. If ( a big if considering what's going on in his country) defeats Joshua again then Fury those 3 wins would be bigger than any 3 Fury wins. I'm assuming you would agree that on paper Joshua looks better than Wilder.
Guys you have to know by now that you can't take anything Fury says seriously. He's retired like 3 times now.
"Defeating an old Wlad is comparable to Marciano defeating old Louis, a win for which Marciano gets no props and neither should Fury." You've already discredited yourself with this nonsense. Louis had been defeated just over a year prior, had been relatively inactive by his standards and wasn't a champion anymore, Wlad was undefeated in 11 years, active, a unified champ on a 22 win streak and the P4P No.2, in his backyard as the A-side. Furthermore, if Fury gets "no credit" for schooling Wlad in Germany, then AJ gets less than no credit for going life and death with a 17 months older, 17 months inactive, dethroned Wlad in Britain. By that standard AJ is rubbish and there's no need to fight him anyway as he gets less than no credit for beating Wlad, who is by far his best win. "Wilder is constantly disparaged in here" Of course he is. Just as Wlad was, Lewis and Holyfield were and Holmes was. Boxing fans have a bias against the present. Wilder's attributes make him a live underdog at minimum against any HW. Usyk beating AJ x2 isn't as good as Fury beating champ Wlad or an undefeated Wilder, let alone in the manner that Fury did. AJ was already damaged goods with his awful quitjob loss to that 5'11, light punching, morbidly obese late sub. But Usyk is without question in my eyes the GOAT cruiser and a serious stylistic problem at minimum for any heavyweight.
Fury is surely more past it. The 2 years of heavy drug and alcohol abuse while ballooning up to like 500lbs probably took 3-4 years of his prime.
If he beats AJ again and beats Fury, he'd be in contention for top ten. I have Rocky at # 5. If Usyk gets past AJ again, unifies and wins over Fury, and makes a couple of defences of the undisputed title, say Wilder and Whyte, and then retires, I think that would elevate him over Rocky. He would only have 23 pro fights and only7 HW bouts, but...
We'll have a better idea this weekend. Although Fury wasn't training and was abusing junk food and drugs during the layoff, he wasn't getting punched in the head.
Good spot but it's less praise and more the blindingly obvious to contradict Johnny Nelson's ludicrous and resentful claim that Usyk is an "average southpaw". But in fairness Fury didn't have to say anything. Nelson was the same when Huck was closing in on his cruiser title defence record, very bitter.
True but he agreed with Adam Smith's (OBE) evaluation of Usyk who FTR is the best southpaw HW champ of all time and the current best or second best southpaw in the sport.
I'll add it to the list. Usyk's competition in that regard consists of: Moorer, Sanders, Byrd, Sultan, Chagaev and technically Charles Martin, so it's head and shoulders. Fury said the other day that Usyk is "no young Evander Holyfield" but young Holyfield was beaten by a former LHW southpaw with a glass chin relative to Usyk! Furthermore, in the same interview Fury expressed a belief in the gradual progressive evolution of boxing, so according to that theory Usyk would be expected to be better than Holyfield, who Fury himself said was not able to hang with the SHW champions of the 90's, while Usyk was able to school a 2020's SHW champion in his backyard. Fury loves to talk trash but he knows that Usyk could very well be his toughest challenge and has said as much.
Some very good and dangerous southpaws there but none of them beat Usyk at his best. Yes, Fury is very knowledgeable and astute about the sport and far from stupid and he's fully aware of the threat Usyk poses him and that Usyk has the speed, skills and style to cause him nightmares.