Fury's legs are gone, Wilder will ko him GUARENTEED

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  1. Uncontrollable

    Uncontrollable Mikey Garcia don't want those Spence bodyshots banned Full Member

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    bad spelling in the title there
     
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  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Yes the fight where:

    And I would rate Wilder above Quarry and, controversially perhaps, Fury below Ali.
     
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  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the only path to victory for Fury is to jab and grab. pull the octopus routine he used to wear down Cunningham.
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Wilder also by big KO, Fury hasn't shown me much
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I wouldnt say they have for sure gone yet i just dont think they have come back yet from holding up party Fury. Ive said all along hes lost all the weight and his hands are fast but the sharpness isnt quite there yet, it certainly wasnt there in his 2 warm up fights and that sharpness is one of the biggest parts of his game. You could see it in the Pianeta fight he was trying to move like he used to but he was being caught and close to getting caught quite often. Wilders better and faster than Pianeta.
     
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  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 2nd Quarry fight was 2 years later after his comeback fight.
    The only thing Wilder has over Quarry is he punches harder, other than that he's inferior in every department.
    How can it be controversial to rate Fury below Ali?!?
     
  7. big moose

    big moose Active Member Full Member

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    The first half of this Knuckles & Gloves podcast has some interesting material:
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/knuckl...ko-recap-inside-deontay-wilders-training-camp

    Brin Jonathan Butler has been embedded in Wilder's camp. He is an aficionado of the Cuban school (he trailed Rigondeux before he defected), so was obviously pretty unimpressed by Wilder's skills, but he seems genuinely impressed by the power; the touch-of- death of that right-hand is real. He liked Deontay as a person, how he spoke privately, leaving aside all the self-publicising bull****. Wilder supposedly has some quality sparring partners, and is working hard, but Brin was very concerned that clinching was not being practiced... and against a desperate-to-survive Fury, that seems a major over-sight.
     
  8. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who's to say that Tyson Fury isn't going to spring a surprise here? I think that is what is going to happen. I have a feeling that he is going to go toe to toe with Wilder, and beat him up. Wilder doesn't have a lot of composure, and he needs space to pull off his punches a lot of the time. Fury is much bigger, so when Wilder does his windmills, Fury can easily counter them and force Wilder to lose balance.

    Deonkey puts so much effort into his punches, he sacrifices his whole body just to throw the right hand. That could be his downfall if Tyson Fury does what I think he is going to do. He mentioned it in the presser. He said he would go and fight up close with Wilder. And I'm with you, I wouldn't normally trust what comes out of Tyson Fury's mouth. But maybe this time is different.

    I mean, he has a huge weight advantage over Wilder, and movement is equal. He could very well try something totally unexpected here.
     
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  9. big moose

    big moose Active Member Full Member

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    The best quote though was when he recounted asking Mark Breland about Wilder's ability. Mark supposedly said that Wilder has now attained the skill level that he had at age 11! Not entirely surprising I guess - by the age Wilder started boxing, Breland had a 110-1 amateur record... but still, I feel that is doesn't reflect too well on the current state of heavyweight boxing...
     
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol his legs have gone,maybe he’ll come in on a very big mobile scooter powered by illegal substances?
    Folk really are sensationalistic on here at times.
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know I was thinking this today,any basic knowledge of boxing would tell you to get inside with Wilder and take that right hand away by circling to his left(is that right lol?)
    Thing is with Fury is what he lacks in power he makes up for in size and for such a big lump he does have surprisingly quick hands and correct me if I’m wrong but he’s not got a reputation for gassing like AJ has.
    I’d love love it if he did fight fire with fire but I can’t see that happening as it’s not in his nature but he may be in a position where he has to do that as he won’t trust the judges and in any case his best way of winning against Wilder is to get him out of there as Wilder has shown time n again that he can knock folk out at any time.
    My opinion of Wilder is this and I’ve never wavered on this in that he’s never faced anyone good enough who could take advantage when he falls over and out of position except Ortiz and he nearly pulled it off.
    Doesn’t matter imo that Fury lacks the big KO power cause if he can catch Wilder when he’s horribly out of shape it shouldn’t take a load of power to floor him so if Fury can weather the barrage of rabbit punches,wrist punches and just that mongrel mode that’s Wilder goes into then he has a good chance of winning imo.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garantieed someone will spell that word wrong
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still can’t really 100% believe this fight is gonna happen,like it’s some psy op to sell them both without actually fighting.
    Would not surprise me if in the week prior to the weigh in and fight Fury tests positive for something silly like a whiff of meldonium or deep heat vapour rub that’s actually legal but not on a Wednesday prior to the weigh in?
    No2 psy op could be an injury caused through sparring citing Hugies loss to Pulev as the reason to pull out.
    No3 some excuse about not having a visa and Dominic Breazeale steps in at the last minute to save the day.
    Really hope I’m being unnecessarily paranoid here but having seen the already fake WWE style build up to this I’m not exactly confident in writing the above fears off.
     
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  14. Uncontrollable

    Uncontrollable Mikey Garcia don't want those Spence bodyshots banned Full Member

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    Infapper0121 will have many threads to bump when December comes along :)
     
  15. brown-bomber

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    Does anyone see Fury fighting southpaw? Like he did against Chisora II. In order to negate Wilder’s right hand? Surely this is safer for him than to fight on the inside. It would allow him to win by sticking and moving. It’ll also allow a lot of room for the big right that he should see it coming in plenty of time to dodge.