Fury's Resume Post Return.

pretty silly, aint it? i saw the silliness the whole way through. from his self uppercutting period to the wilder quarterfinals trilogy. silly, silly silly.

 

Definitely very much overrated. Him beating the very limited Wilder who had an even worse resume is what garnered him all that praise. He and Wilder managed to run the narrative that they were the undisputed best in the division and didn't need to fight anybody else, despite the fact that they hadn't really fought anybody but eachother. Outside of Wilder his resume was pretty thin. I do think the Whyte win is somewhat underrated though.

 

I think a few factors go into it. But one being he beat a past it Wlad by basically 12 rounds of feinting and face making with a few decent punches mixed in.

Then he beat a guy many were calling “The most dangerous puncher in boxing history” so that’s going to create some hype!

I think at the end of the day… Fury is a very good HW who’s 260 and 6’8. So he’s going to be dangerous to most boxers unless they are elite like Usyk. Do I think the “GOAT” talk was warranted?? **** No. But he’s very good.

Prime Wladimir of 2007-2012 would get him out of there within 6.

 

Thats got to be the most embarrassing boxing take of all time. Talk about being on the wrong side of history...recency bias is a helluva drug

 

Other than AJ who were all the top heavyweights he was supposed to fight? Parker and Ruiz weren't any better than Whyte tbh.

 

Avoided the top HW's, nice revision of history.

He fought Wilder x3 and Whyte and offered the AJ fight.
Who else was a 'top HW' out there to fight?

Until recently Zhang hadn't even fought anyone. Joyce was avoiding everyone. Dubois was already exposed and 'rebuilding'. The Croatian didn't fight anyone till Zhang. Parker was fighting 'tune ups'. All these people called 'top HW's' now were doing nothing during Fury's return.
Even Ruiz was semi-retired. He also priced himself out of the Fury fight btw.

Wilder was the most dangerous by far and Fury fought him three times.

Why don't you critique AJ's resume since Ruiz 2, because he avoided Fury and Wilder for years and has been ducking every tough fight since losing to Usyk.

 

To be fair, there were only like 2-3 absolute gimps calling him the GOAT.

 

Maybe, but many boxing professionals had said Fury would beat Usyk.

 

Yes, and that was ridiculous. I am not saying that I am the greatest boxing expert around, but even I told everybody for the beginning that Fury just doesn't throw enough punches to beat Usyk. Really, it was one of the more obvious big fights to me.

 

Nah. It was when some people were saying Wilder is an ATG.

 

Well Rocky Marciano didn't fight jack either and is consider a great by his biased fanboys. But yeah Fury has done notihng in his career before his return.

Beating a 40 year old Wlad, getting dropped by natural 180 pound light punching Steve Cunnnigham and light punching Nevin Pajkic isn't something to brag about.

Then when he came back he beat D level fighters.

Wallin a guy who wasn't even ranked in the top 100 when he faced Fury and Fury struggled against him.

Dillian Whyte after old man Alexander Povetkin and Anthony Joshua smahsed him first.

Derek Chisora in a title fight after Chisora went 1-3 in his previous 4 bouts

Ngannou a MMA fighter with zero professional bouts about and he struggled

Pianeta a guy who got knocked out in 1 round by Ruslan Chagaev yet Tyson Fury ran for 10 rounds and only laned 100 punches (Landed 17 percent of his total punches landed and less than 2 percent of his jabs landed)

Who in the hell is Seferi and Schwarz? 2 extremely low level guys

Wilder a guy that has done nothing with his career besides beat a 50 year old Luis Ortiz

Which is kind of funny because this also shows how overrated Usyk is a heavyweight

Usyk beat old man Chazz Witherspoon who was never any good

Old man Derek Chisora who Usyk struggled with even though David Haye destroyed Chisora years before
This got Usyk a title shot against a mentally broken Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz knocked him out. Joshua himself is a overrated hype known for struggled against a 41 year old Wladimir Klistchko, beating a 38/39 year old Alexander Povetkin and beating Parker a guy who did nothing with his career besides beat a 40 year old Zhang and a 38 year old faded Wilder

Usyk then beat Daniel Dubois a guy who is so unskilled than slow Joe Joyce was able to land on him and Dubois was almost knocked out by some other cruiser weight guy.

Then Usyk beat the forementioned overrated Tyson Fury who is a broken down druggy now.

Now Usyks biased fanboys who are the most biased fanboys in boxing history act like this guy is some heavyweight legend and nobody could beat him. Funny stuff.

 

You see I was trying to say exactly what you said when another poster was claiming Fury is an ATG which made me shake my head.

Fury is very good as you say but he is certainly not a great or an ATG not even close, you can't be an ATG with only 3 wins against ranked Heavyweights.

The fact is Fury's resume is paper thin and some of his notable wins over the likes of Wilder, Wallin, have aged very poorly.

 

I wouldn't say he avoided the toughest fights but he did pad is record with some truly awful fights. Seferi and Pianeta were understandable he was coming back from a long doping ban but after the Wilder fight he proved he wasn't a washed up fighter and was a force in the division again.

Instead of rematching Wilder like everyone expected he signed with ESPN and fought Schwarz and Wallin in 2019. You can't say he couldn't of fought better opposition in 2019. You had Ortiz, Whyte, Ruiz, Parker, Hunter. Povetkin and of course Joshua.

Then in 2020 and 2021 he only fought once, both times against Wilder. Yes he did try and fight Joshua here too, so only real issue here was his inactivity which had a lot to do with Wilder not activating the rematch clause and Fury being forced to be side lined and unable to fight anyone else.

Whyte and Chisora and then Ngannou were a horrible run of fights after the Wilder fights. Whyte would of been a good win in 2018 or 2019 but by 2021 Whyte was seen as washed up after being sparked out by a faded Povetkin. But remember this was a mandatory and Whyte deserved his shot having jumped through every hoop the WBC made him jump through to finally secure a title shot.

The 3rd Chisora fight secured the worst trilogy in heavyweight history, utterly pointless fight that nobody wanted, not even a huge Chisora fan like myself didn't even bother watching it as Chisora was shot and even in his prime proved he wasn't on Fury's level. This fight was unforgivable no reason why he couldn't fought Parker, Joyce, Ortiz, Ruiz, Hrgovic but for some reason a 3rd fight with Chisora was what he chose.

Ngannou fight was a cynical cash grab nothing more. But not unexpected, while Fury is willing to take the tough fights as the Wlad, Wilder, Usyk and signing to fight Joshua prove he is also very much happy to fight a complete nobody with zero chance and sell that to the fans as a PPV and fleece fans wallets with total mismatches.

 

When I see nonsense threads like this, I often wonder who people wanted him to fight that he didn’t…

He came back from 4 years off and almost instantly went to the US to beat Wilder. Something AJ wouldn’t do.

He gave Whyte his shot that he waited years for while others avoided him.
Took the Usyk fight and gave it a really good go.