Fury's Resume Tonight Just Got Destroyed.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dynamicpuncher, Dec 23, 2023.


  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Good day to you too sir
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah it's going overboard. Fury on a very good fighter imo, but Usyk is a ATG forsure. This goat stuff is nonesense
     
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yep
    I am not 100 years old, so obviously never saw Ray Robinson live, but he was well ahead of his time and was way better in his time than anyone since

    He's the Goat and it's a disgrace to have anyone ahead of him. I don't give a sh.t about amateur records. They are way shorter fights and nothing like the pros

    Usyk has done amazing for how little pro fights he has had, but to put him ahead of the likes of Ray and Duran? It's disgraceful

    Ray Leonard didn't have the amount of fights of some of the the other greats, but his resume is absolutely stacked

    Floyd fought way better opponents than the guys usyk has fought for the most part (not his fault) and has way more fights, title wins etc

    Usyk did do the hard way, I will say that. He did fight away from home etc. The guy is a certified ATG no doubt whatsoever and has a huge claim for the goat cruiserweight.

    However, I think it's a disgrace to the likes of Ray Robinson, Leonard, Duran, etc to call him the goat
     
  4. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Highly, highly debatable.

    How do you give a lesson to a bloke who already has his phd and doctorate with honours in the sweet science?
     
  5. pugilista

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    But these are two separate things. Fury is an immense talent with an utterly garbage resume. His resume and legacy are in the gutter. Yet, beating him is still a monumental task because of his immense talent, especially when he outweighs you by some 40 lbs.

    Fury is a victim of his own ego. He thought he could talk himself into ATG status without actually building a resume. And for a while, it worked, mostly because of his sob story about mental illness, which was a fabricated thing too. On the one hand, he talks about mental health awareness and how he suffered from bullying because of being a Traveller all his life, yet he is the one who constantly makes ad hominem remarks. And no, let's not use the "oh, but he is only selling fights, it's just trash talk" excuse because if Usyk or Joshua responded to his insults in kind and called him an ugly, uneducated fat pikey, there would be an absolute meltdown from Team Fury and their fans, and we would never hear the end of how it is racist, disrespectful, and hurting Fury's mental health. He is perfectly happy to dish it out and call others ugly little midget, p...y with an earring, b...h s..thouse, and whatnot, but you can be damn sure he couldn't take the same treatment, nor would his fans claim, "oh, everybody calm down, it's fine, his opponent is just selling the fight."

    So, Fury conned his way into being seen by most casuals as the number one heavyweight of this era, but he doesn't actually have the resume to back it up. He beat an ancient, gun-shy Wlad whom Joshua beat in a much more definitive fashion. Then he beat Wilder, who was always an unskilled, terrible boxer only crushing tomato cans. Then he beat Whyte, who was beaten even by a 41-year-old, slow, old Povetkin before. So, if Fury fans claim that Fury beat the fight and the decent fighter out of Wilder in an attempt to diminish the significance of Parker and Zhang both beating him with ease, the same argument goes for Whyte—Povetkin knocked him out so badly he was unconscious for minutes, and that stays with a fighter, in most cases in the shape of some type of permanent neurological issue.

    Long story short, Fury's resume is utter garbage, which has indeed been destroyed, and it's a lovely sight. But the man is a massive talent, and beating him is a huge achievement. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
     
  6. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wins title against Wlad - dodges rematch and retires for 3 years.

    Wins title against Wilder goes on a 18 month holiday, doesn’t even look like fighting, announces AJ fight is signed when he knows the next day his going to get forced to fight Wilder again, hence conning the public he is actually willing to fight AJ.

    Beats Wilder again and his 2 defences are Whyte, Chisora and a 10 round bout against Ngannou which arguably he lost.

    Fury’s body of work is legit ****.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Don't forget that this small fighter is 19 months older and is wwll past his good years, let alone his prime. 37.5 years is ancient for a relative small guy in unnatural for him division.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

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    Yeah, but most have countervailing arguments. Duran lost fightS, some of which he really shouldn't have. Leonard was brilliant, but had no business losing to Duran, who was naturally two weight classes beneath him.

    Mayweather is undefeated, but he has 2-3 fights which could have, maybe should have gone the other way.

    I don't call Usyk THE GOAT...I don't think there is a such thing...but he belongs with these names.
     
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  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muhahahah. You mean running, right?? And his stamina has never been exceptonal. All of this decline talk ain't working, as Fuey is the one delaying thw fight for good 2+ years. But he never wanted to face a younger, fresher version of Usyk that beats AJ, as he knows he would get destroyed. That was 100% trying to aging Usyk out.
    And if Fury stamina has declined, he wouldn't have thrown close to 600 punches + on a fight of very high pace + he would have never been able to recovee in the 10th. after the beating he took.
    Biased is one thing, and you clearly are, but you are also delusional and a sore loser with all kind of excuses as well.
     
  10. Arnie 101

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    He started in the middle weight that guy made a dumb statement.
     
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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I disagree
    With a rubbish resume he never proved to be an immense talent

    It's just a way to big up usyk who looked lost at times

    Fury is good, but far from immense.
     
  12. pugilista

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    Obvious talent is obvious, though. We all know Moses Itauma is a massive talent even though his résumé, as of now, is literally non-existent. Everybody knew what a huge talent Mike Tyson was, even before he fought at championship level. When you see talent, you recognise it.

    Fury is a massive talent and a great boxer who failed to do justice to his talent because he didn't build a worthy legacy.

    I know you are trying to mock the overzealous Usyk fans now by fake bashing Fury a bit, but come on, mate. You know what I'm talking about, and you know I'm right.
     
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  13. BubblesUK

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    I think Fury's very good - but not quite great.

    And I'm not convinced he's above Joshua when all's said and done - but we won't know unless they fight, and I'm not expecting to see it.
     
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  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua is closer to his prime, he would smash Fury
     
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nope, Fury is good, but nothing special
    His resume is complete dog s..t other than 40 year old wlad

    Wilder being exposed just shows Fury hasn't been good since his return. Was he ever that great? He's been fighting cans that long and tailor made opponents like chisora, it's difficult to know

    This is the same guy that lost to mcdermott struggled with wallin, struggled with Cunningham, arguably got beat by Ngannou

    I MASSIVELY overrated Fury and I admit that. It's not a great win in my eyes. Someone like Lewis or even Holyfield would imo smash Fury to pieces
     
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