Fury's size might not help much against Usyk.

Cunningham gave Fury a decent fight until he didn’t. Bigger men have fared worse.

 

So apparently a 40 year old guy, who is fighting a 27 year old has advantages?
Do you even realize how old is 40, especially for professional sports?

 

The average sprinter may peak at 26 but the average heavyweight boxer peaks significantly later for many reasons. Look at the top 5: Fury (33) Usyk (35) Wilder (36) AJ (32) Joyce (36) average age: 34.4. You throw home/A-side and activity advantages on top of that and it's clear why Fury was a 4/1 underdog.

 

Klitschkos prime was 30-35.
I think Wilder is past it already.

 

Well, according to Fury - you only as good as your latest fight, so by that logic Usyk would destroy Fury right now

 

Pro boxing is entertainment business.
Fans are considering pro boxer as peaked when he does have wins in notable high level fights.
To get till this you need build fanbase, to build resume, fight record and to climb in rankings. Ofc also to have good promoter and manager, very good team and advisors. It is what it is here.

We do not see 35+ elite sprinters, marathon runners etc medaling in high level championships and Games often.
Why? For a reason.
Majority of NBA and NHL players are <35 and there is reason why.


Okey, if someone here is young and especially had not did sport ( even non combat sport ), then they might buy this.
While ppl here >30 who had did sport seriously might easily to guess about reality.
Especially guys here who are 40 and older and had did some sport seriously. Not mandatory combat sport.

 

To me, you wanna talk physics for centers of gravity control and everything, you gotta look at the theory of magneticism. Where you got like metals and masses and they are attractant unto each other. And that means you are faster because your mass is more attractant unto your opponenet because mass attract on mass. A lot of people forget that. That is why bigger men are actually faster because mass equals force but force equals speed.

 

Yh and that same 'unknown Swede' who went 12 rounds against Adrian Granat also nearly shut Tyson Fury's eyes, so much so that Fury was forced to change his style half-way through their fight because of the 'THREAT' Wallin posed to Fury's eye with his SIGNIFICANTLY superior boxing skills. And who's to say Wallin also doesn't fight to the level of his opponent? We are to believe this rule ONLY applies to Fury but not to anybody else, because you say so? LMFAO!

Again, my original point here was that Fury could not OUT-BOX the likes of Cunningham and Wallin, particularly Wallin, whom are both physically similar in dimension to Usyk and have similar strengths in terms of athleticism, speed, slickness and in Wallin's case, his southpaw stance. And don't tell me "FURY WASN'T TRYING DOE BECAUSE OF FIGHTING TO OPPONENT LEVEL DOE" because that's a blatant lie. You're not going to convince me that a guy who nearly closed Fury's eyes with legal punches was not a threat to Fury and Fury did not perceive him a threat, regardless of how Wallin performed in any other fight, nor are you going to convince me a feather-fisted cruiser-weight in Cunningham who dropped Fury was going to be seen as a non-threat by Fury either. The fact that he had to change his style in the first place, is proof enough that he saw them as legitimate threats, regardless of your fanboy/fangirl interpretation. If Fury could outbox them legally without needing to rely on his size, he would have done so. The fact that he didn't, means he could not and the only way he could beat them was through fouling and relying on imposing his size on them. Especially Wallin because he fought him after his supposed 'masterclass' against Wladimir Klitschko. And it's not like he forgot how to fight like that when he was fighting Wallin. Only he could not fight like that as styles make fights and that style of fighting evidently does not work on a athletic cruiser-sized boxer like Usyk or Wallin otherwise he would've fought like that instead.

So my original point here stands in response to the user 'Unforgiven' who proposed "Maybe he just keeps Usyk on the end of his jab." If Fury could not even do that against inferior opponents with similar strengths and / or southpaw stance as Usyk, then he could not manage it against Usyk either. It's not logical to infer a person can run if they have not learnt to walk first. It's a massive logical leap. And I'm not saying Fury can't beat Usyk here by any means, but what I'm arguing here is Fury can't OUT-BOX Usyk from the outside using his jab. The only way Fury wins this is if he imposes his size by leaning on Usyk, holding Usyk and hitting him whilst doing so. If he does that, I might even make Fury the favorite. But in a boxing match, Fury gets shut-out.

And as for the rest of your comment about Wladimir Klitschko, TOTALLY IRRELEVANT! Regardless, your boy Fury ducked Wladimir Klitschko like a coward, which is worse than simply losing a match whilst barely getting hit in the first place. Maybe Fury lost the plot mentally because he was too scared of fighting a serious Wlad, and not the Wlad who had family problems at the time with his wife having depression. Wlad was man enough to face Fury even though he had his own problems without ducking or making excuses, but your boy had to pull every excuse under the sun to escape his contractual obligation and he'd be forever a laughing stock for that disgraceful duck. If you signed the contract and agreed on a rematch and you then refuse (FOR ANY REASON), then you have to be held accountable and no excuse justifies a duck. There was no rematch clause for Purity and Sanders so your point is kind of moot here. And Wlad beat Haye, who beat Chisora, so how could there be a duck when Chisora was not good enough to challenge Wladimir Klitshcko? LMFAO

So since Fury ducked the rematch like a coward, he proved to be inferior to Wlad. Wlad had his own problems but still faced Fury and lost whilst barely getting hit for 12 rounds. Whereas when Fury had 'supposed' problems, he ducked the rematch and suffered an even worse fate than simply losing. Wlad > Fury!

 

It's not just the size, it's also the speed.

The Fury you saw vs Wilder is Fury at like 40%. Vs Wilder he had no head movement in the 3rd fight.

Fury is just as quick as Usyk at his best and also bigger. It will be much harder for Usyk to score shots against Fury than against Joshua

 

He would, but we all know Fury didn't really have much time to prepare and wasn't fit.

 

Holy wall of text, batman!

 

How did he not have time to prepare?
To my knowledge his child was in hospital for 12 days (not weeks or months)
Also the suggestion he had covid seems very strange given his going out nightclubbing the day after the fight with Wilder was postponed

I can agree that he clearly didnt prepare but thats on him

Also I dont think he will face Usyk - he is bigging up Joyce as the man to beat which suggests to me he fancies that fight a lot more - and I presume due to Joyce being comparitively the slower mover.

 

So do you seriously think that the Fury that faced Wilder 2021 was near full fitness?

There was a huge difference between Fury 2020 and Fury 2021.

Fury's daughter was in the hospital for a period of time, but we don't know just how much that impacted Fury mentally.

It's safe to say that Fury wasn't really able to have as good of a fitness camp as he'd have liked. Where as Wilder was probably preparing all year.

 

No - as I said - we can agree he clearly didn't prepare - but that's on him

His opponent can only prepare himself and has to face whichever Fury turns up
He cant blame anyone but himself for being in poor condition - he is a professional boxer / supposed athlete - its his job

Plenty of examples we can all quote but the bottom line is its his choice for good/bad

 

If Wallin fights to the level of his opponent that means that Wallin gave Fury the best fight of his life. Granat was also Wallin's highest level and most dangerous opponent pre-Fury. Wallin cut one of Fury's eyes badly and half-blind Fury still battered Wallin, winning 9 rounds by consensus.

Fury didn't perceive Cunningham and Wallin to be threats until Cunningham had dropped Fury in the 2nd and Wallin had cut Fury in the 3rd. Fury's rough inside fighting was far more mild than the DQ-worthy fouling Wlad used to beat Povetkin, who by your logic would have sparked Wlad out minus the incessant holding. Wlad certainly thought there was a decent chance that was the case or he wouldn't have "fought" as disgracefully he did. Fury is a bigger man, a better boxer and a better athlete than AJ, who won at least 4 rounds on two of the judges cards. The idea that a fit, motivated Fury gets "shut out" by Usyk is absurd, as absurd as your claim that Andy Ruiz was one of the three greats of this era.

Wlad ducked Chisora on two occasions after he'd signed contracts who Wlad probably felt was all wrong for him stylistically, much like a prime Sam Peter. I don't care about contracts though, they favour the guy with the economic and political power. Wlad had things all his own way against a relative novice in Fury, in his backyard as the A-side and got clowned, schooled for 10 of the 12 rounds. Then he fought an obvious hypejob in AJ and let AJ off the hook like a p*ssy, before becoming AJ's biggest fanboy and not even supporting his countryman Usyk over AJ when they fought. RoCoLaTyAn > Wlad.