Fury's win over Wilder

This. Fury isn’t given enough credit for his win over Wilder. Their rematch reinforces how important having the right strategy is.

Just by the way Fury fought Wilder in the rematch you can see Fury studied their first fight meticulously and most likely studied the1st Stiverne fight, the first Ortiz fight, and the Duhapas fight, since he completely neutralized both Wilder’s mobility and right hand.

Just because Fury made the rematch against Wilder look easy doesn’t mean every other top fighter at heavyweight would do the same with Wilder. Fury learned from the first fight that backing up and slipping punches against Wilder is dangerous, so in the rematch he made Wilder back up most of the fight.

 

Definitely. Fury still needs to fight and beat Joshua to claim the number one spot in the division and despite what a lot of people think I don’t think Joshua will be a cakewalk. If Joshua comes with the right game plan and Fury underestimates him I could see Joshua giving Fury a very tough fight and maybe even beating him.

 

Its a good win over an unbeaten world champ at the time

 

Nah I can't agree with this

IF Joshua had come out in the Ruiz rematch and just absolutely destroyed him, proving the first fight to be nothing but a fluke, then you'd have an argument.

But that didn't happen, he basically won by default since Ruiz didn't turn up in anything like fighting shape

So Joshua still has a million question marks, even outside the Ruiz fight he hasn't looked impressive since he fought Martin, just skating by in lackluster wins.

Fury is CLEAR number one, if you think AJ might have a chance against him, fine. You are deluded but fine. But saying Joshua and Fury are even in standing is nonsense.

 

Yeah, it's often hard to rate a win in its direct aftermath. Did Fury make it look easy because he was that good, or because Wilder wasn't? Or more likely somewhere in between?

You need some sort of context since Wilder might well go on to dominate the rest of the field and show himself to be a much better fighter than that performance showed (I don't think he will, but it's still a possibility). Or he might start getting KOed left, right and centre by mediocre guys, which might lessen the achievement somewhat (unfair but inevitable if it happens). Or Fury might demolish Joshua in one round. Or get demolished. Any number of things could happen that could throw the result into a different light.

Right now I'm rating the win based on public perceptions of how the fight would go down beforehand. Lots of people gave Wilder a chance, and very few believed Fury would stop him, so from that perspective it was a very good win.

 

Wilder was an overrated hypejob who looked good against literal tomato cans. Said it for years.

 

Great win and arguably the best heavyweight performance in the last 10 years.

 

So did I (minus the literal part). But I'd still like to see how Wilder does against a Parker or Ruiz or Whyte before I commit to that label fully.

 

One of them if not both of them would beat Wilder surely. Wilder gets put on Bambi legs by any half decent shot he’s caught clean with and they’re both capable of landing on Wilder and going through his awful defence.

 

Wilder pre Fury: I will baptise you

Wilder post Fury: I gassed on the ring walk

 

Good win, but if Wilder gets KOed by a cherry pick soon it will be tainted.

 

It's a great win.

Some forget Wilder was being taken very seriously by everybody by this stage, every trainer and fighter was calling Wilder an extremely difficult challenge. Even Hearn was very wary. Although Wilder had lost to Fury in the first fight, he almost KO'd Fury. Then left two more contenders unconscious. Wilder was considered more proven, able to take some punishment (Ortiz), and seemingly always able to land the bomb at some point. Literally EVERY opponent had been badly hurt of KO'd by Wilder up to this point, including possibly the best defensive fighter in Fury!

So that was the context. Then we consider Fury had to face the demons of almost being stopped in the first fight. He'd never been so close to losing a fight. It took massive mental toughness to go back in there and actually go on the offensive from the outset.

 

Beating him would be a good one. It's a great one because of the way he did it.

 

Wilder as flawed as he is still beats most of the division with just a punch

Wilder exploits poor defence, slow or lack of footwork and lack of head movement. This is most of the HW division.

Luis Ortiz can't beat him because he doesn't have a 12 round gas tank and slows down heavily late fight, this is true for most heavyweights.


Fury beat Wilder mentally first then physically.

 

its a big win as it shut up the biggest mouth and ego in boxing.

a mouth that needed to be silenced for the good of boxing.

let this be a lesson to all of you that anoint yourself a king above all others rather than being anointed king by the FANs.