now im going to name 10 midlle weigth champions of recent years and tell me how they hold up do they get KO'D or not? 1) HAgler 2) Hopkins 3) TAylor 4) Pavlik 5) Antifermo 6) TITO (was a belt holder) 7) Joppy(belt holder) 8) SRL(i know it was above his best weight but he did have good succes at higher weights) 9) Holmes 10) AA (belt holder) this was in no paticular order just you thoughts? just for fun so please keep the bashing and insults to very little:good
Hagler TKO Hopkins UD McClellan T/KO Taylor McClellan T/KO Pavlik Antuofermo UD McClellan T/KO Trinidad McClellan T/KO Joppy SRL UD McClellan T/KO Holmes McClellan T/KO Abraham
I'd take Hagler and Hopkins over McClellan without much hesitation. Both had the chins to take a big shot and both had vastly superior skill. Hopkins outclasses McClellan over 12, really taking over the fight late with accurate counterpunching. Hagler outboxes him from a distance behind his right jab, probably being more cautious than usual. He'd wear McClellan down and stop him late. McClellan knocks out Pavlik, Taylor, Joppy, Holmes, and Trinidad. They don't have the defense to avoid his shots or the chin to withstand them. He TKO's Abraham. Antuofermo had a great chin. But McClellan's power was obviously unreal. I think he'd either stop him on cuts or accumulation in the mid rounds. I could see Antuofermo surviving and making life rough for McClellan late though, but I'd be inclined to go with the former. Leonard is an interesting fight because Leonard's movement and skill level would give McClellan problems. But at the same time, McClellan's animalistic fury, massive size, and power would be hard for Leonard to cope with. I'd like to hear more on this.
Agree pretty much with TFFP but I think Holmes has a good chance at upsetting Gerald with his style. On the undercard of Andries-Harding I, a young Gerald was outpointed by a tricky former amateur star who's name escapes me. Gerald just couldnt get going in that fight and as it was only over 6 he lost a clear points decision. After that I dont think Gman ever faced a real slick boxer and its hard to gauge whether would handle some of the better ones at middleweight over the years. I think Holmes had an alright chin but he could spoil when necessary and was a decent boxer.
You truly are one of the worst posters on this forum, a very underrated pick for such, but you've always proven yourself to be an imbecile.
For those choosing Antuofermo, how good do you think his chin was? He could give Gerald trouble with his stamina and pressure if he survives, but Gerald's power would be waiting for him at every turn early on. I think style-wise this matchup suits Gerald pretty well.
mccllen would blast out antuerfermo antuerfermo was to open . the hagler draw is misleading. styles make fights. tall stand up minter had little real problems landing. and if mccllen lands consistently like i beleive he would down goes antuerfermo.
hagler outboxes gerald from the outside and wins points. gerald himself had a great chin leanord IMO loses at middleweight. gerald to big and agressive. leanord the middleweight was a good but not great fighter. leanord the welterweight is an ATG.
My initial pick was McClellan to stop Antuofermo, but for some reason I felt inclined to edit that as I felt he could outwork him down the stretch should he somehow survive I was under the impression his chin was pretty good, getting stopped by Hagler/Minter is no shame in itself, but he has some less explainable stoppages too. You guys are probably correct in your assesment
More consistently aggressive than Hagler? He was good but not great, but good enough to outbox an ATG(though past his prime) in Hagler. I'm not saying that means he beats a bigger fighter with a different style in McClellan, just offering counters to those particular points. This is the matchup I'm having the most difficulty deciding. If G-Man were to win it'd be more based on his reach and power than his pure aggression, though those things would help in that regard. I'd probably choose him.
You guys think Bernard Hopkins could honestly weather the storm that Gman would bring to him? I'm not too sure about that...I mean stylistically Hopkins gives any man trouble, But McClellan could really let his hands go..I'm not sure if Hopkins could keep that pace up.
against hagler he threw a few fast flurries with 15 secs to go and nicked rounds on the scorecards similar to how dlh did in the early rounds v hopkins. also hagler fought a weird fight. he boxed the wrong way around for him, was to passive and let leanord away with things he normally would not. to me as you say, styles make fights. the version of leanord that beat hagler struggled straight after. cannot remember the exact time frames but i thought leanord lost v hearns getting of the floor twice /lalonde was not a good showing getting of the floor /terry norris beat him easily although back down at light middle i would have to go to boxing rec to see what other fights he had at 160 to jog my memeory. he used his intangibles/and experience /ring intellegence at the higher weights, but i do not think he could fight the same way v gerald at 160/168.
SRL decisions him, Hagler KO's him, Antufuermo KO's him, Hopkins decision's him. The rest he'd best by KO, Pavlik gets starched in the first in particular.