G reg PAGE OF 1982 vs. COONEY of 1983

No. For Page - Snipes was top 5, Monroe top 7 or so, Tillis was comfortably in there as well and then as you say Coetzee.

Cooney has Norton sitting at 10 from memory and that would be it i think.

 

Tillis appeared in the 81 annual ratings. Page beat him in 82 after his loss to Thomas likely ejected him from the top ten.

Monroe was a joke but you’re correct. He was top ten after beating Lopez. Young was better.

You’re right about Snipes too. Page caught him at the right time since he just beat Berbick. But he was in the middle of a 1-5-1 section of his career.

My point is Coetzee was the only really good win for either.

 

He never beat any "live" contenders except for Norton - A HALL OF FAMER.

What HALL OF FAMER of any kind did Page ever fight?

Ron Lyle was a top five WBC contender when he was upset by Lynn Ball. And the fight was stopped with Lyle on his feet. It was a "shocking" upset. That doesn't mean a guy is "shot." It means he got caught.

Jimmy Young rebounded from the Cooney loss to beat several rated fighters and reclaim a #3 rating when he fought Page.

Chaplin had won six of his last seven fights (including wins over Shavers and Ball), and only losing to David Bey (who also beat Page).

Eddie Gregg floored Tex Cobb and decisioned him before fighting Cooney. Gregg was rated #3 by the WBA and #9 by the WBC, when Cooney destroyed him (a couple weeks before Page was knocked cold by an unknown journeyman Mark Wills). Gregg also beat the "beloved" Renaldo Snipes to win the NY Golden Gloves (one of two NY Golden Gloves heavyweight titles Gregg won.)

You guys are being ridiculous. Cooney beat Norton, Lyle and Young (before Page did), and you're bragging about Page beating freaking Renaldo Snipes. So what?

 

Renaldo Snipes is quickly becoming the most overrated fighter in the history of this message board.

 

"UNTIL" Holmes? Cooney didn't have to fight Holmes. He chose to. Same with Spinks. Same with Foreman.

 

Page probably would've received more opportunities against top fighters if he didn't lose to so many bad ones.

 

Misuse? So it's a "disgrace" to name actual rated fighters according to the sanctioning bodies - which is how you get title shots?

 

Funniest post of the whole thread.

Look out overrated Renaldo Snipes. Here comes overrated "prime" Tony Tubbs.

It's terrible "old man" (26-year-old) Greg Page had to fight "prime" Tony Tubbs.

Hilarious.

 

Nah - Gotta go some to surpass the overrated-ness of Samuel Peter.

 

To be fair, I think Williams was, at that point, very sound and might have given Page, as much trouble as he did Holmes.

Page was also struggling with the distance by that stage. Williams would give Page nothing less than a good run for his money, I'd wager.

 

Honestly Page wasn't that good and Cooney at the time was good enough to give Larry Holmes a good fight. I think Cooney at this time could've eventually got to Page and busted him up and finished him.

 

The point is Page beat quite a few ring rated opponents when you didn't think he did.

 

Because? He comfortably defeated a prime Trevor Berbick who later stopped David Bey and beat Pinklon Thomas for the title. He also fought an even match with Tim Witherspoon who next fight gave Holmes a spirited challenge. Who could forget him dropping Holmes and having him reeling into the turnbuckle upon rising? Remind me when Cooney had Holmes in anything remotely like this state?

Snipes was a good fighter and like most of the 80's guys quite inconsistent. It seemed to go with the era excepting Holmes.

 

When a guy like Lyle gets stopped by a guy like Ball he is shot. I know you'd like to make it look different to make Cooney's ko of Lyle look like something special but the fact of the matter is Lyle was washed up. Lyle wasn't top anything when he fought Cooney lets not be silly. Almost 4 years earlier Lyle was taking the bombs of Earnie Shavers and George Foreman very very impressively. Losing to Ball let alone by KO shows just how far he had slipped.

Ron Lyle was 38 for heavens sake. The man was washed up.

 

Most people on this forum know what an absolute disgrace much of their ratings were. Heck you've sure proven it with your mentions. Their ratings were often the laughing stock of magazines.

I could go back and find numerous instances but most know what they were like.