Gaining Mass Advice (Need Help)

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  1. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a amatuer boxer, very skinny and looking to gain some good muscle mass.

    What I want to know is after I worked hard lifting weights on monday (only 45 minutes of very heavy weights with low reps). The next day my muscle usually aches a little (not a problem).

    On tuesday my Coach makes my spar pretty standard stuff, quite light (6 rounds of 2 minutes Bouts).

    Can anyone tell me the if the sparring will be a detriment for my muscle mass developement ( especially the upper body and arms)? I've heard its good to have 24 -48 hours of rest after weight lifting before you lift weights again but not sure if its ok to sparr the day after.

    Any help and guides would be much appreciated

    Thanks.
     
  2. cool-cat

    cool-cat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is more important for you to box than lift weights as you are a boxer.
     
  3. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is true but I want to gain muscle mass as I'm very skinny, which means I can't take body shots very well. I know my coach says Don't get hit, but it's inevitable that I will receive some shots to the body when some prefers to brawl all the way.

    I just want to know is it best to rest the day after lifting weights or continue sparring.

    I want to gain mass as quick as possible as im struggling to make weight for my local tournament.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    why you doing weights then

    if your vunerable to body shots just do more sit ups, and take more shots to the body in sparring so you toughen up
     
  5. cool-cat

    cool-cat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i cant see ot doing any harm to spar the day after lifting weights as long as you take in a lot of protein.
    are you trying to move up in weight classes?
     
  6. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes in a way and no. You see I live in small town and it's very difficult to find opponents in my size. I'm really small as in 5ft 3" and I'm coming up against guys that are alot taller than me and thus naturally heavier. Therefore, that is why i lift weights. It's tough on my body and most of time i struggle to make weight.

    That's why i need advice on lifting weights and time of rest before i sparr again. I know your muscle only grows when your resting and not during lifting.
     
  7. CrocodileFace

    CrocodileFace Member Full Member

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    Well you are lifting the weights right, high weight and low reps build mass so that's a good start. I am very big into lifting weights so I can help you a little here...
    When you lift, don't work out your full body, I do 2 muscle groups a day for 5 days
    Mon-Chest/Tri's
    Tues-Biceps/Shoulders
    Wed-Legs/Back
    Thurs-Chest/Tris
    Fri-Biceps/Shoulders
    You also should be getting a balanced diet of protein carbs (simple and complex), and fat (YES FAT). Your diet should be 40% protein 40% carbs and 20% fat. (this is what helped me gain mass anyway as i was tall and thin too).
    You should try to take in 1.5-2 grams of protein for every pound of body weight. I have a very fast metabolism so i needed to take in around 4-5k calories a day to gain weight.

    Let me know if you have more questions
     
  8. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you want to build mass, then the core of your workout should be from a mass building perspective, and the boxing should fit around this. Personally, I do not endorse mass building programmes for boxers, but if you wish to proceed down this route, I would look at the three following programmes.

    Westside for skinny *******s - Defranco

    5x5 - Bill Starr

    Starting Strength - Kilgore and Rippetoe

    Google them, read them, follow trhe programmes - don't mess with them, and eat like a mofo.
     
  9. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    i want to start boxing but i also fear i might simply be the wrong shape, im 5 foot 9 and 9 stone 3 ive managed to put on 3 pounds by weight training then resting the next day but its hard to put bulk on around the mid section
     
  10. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wow thanks man. I was always worried about doing too much weights because i have a fast metabolism too. That means burning alot of calories during lifting. Usually workout alot of sets of muscle such as

    Monday: biceps, forearms, triceps, chest.
    Tuesday: Back, Stomach , obliques, calves and thighs.

    Then two - 3 days rest without weights but continue sparring.

    I guess maybe im doing too many muscle groups in one day, and i dont think my sparring helps with my muscles needing rest. 1.5-2 grams per lb of body weight seems alot, i think i will need supplement to consume that much protein as well as carbs and fats. Im currently only taking one multi-vitamin and one Omega 3 fish oil tablet a day.

    Would like your opinions, much appreciated.
     
  11. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your shape is fine , Amir Khan is 5ft 10" and he fights at 9.5 stone.
     
  12. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Awful training schedule for a boxer.
     
  13. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then would you be kindly enough to share what would be a good schedule. Bearing in mind this is for me as a boxer who needs to gain weight. Lots of weight! and a body of fast metabolism.
     
  14. boxingtactics07

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    You are going to want to lift 3 days a week on SUN/WED/FRI. This will leave you fresh for your Tuesday sparring, which is a lot more important than your strength training. Perform your lifting AFTER your boxing workouts. Here's a SAMPLE workout you could do that will strengthen the whole body in a structurally balanced fashion (calorie surplus + resistance training determines mass increase). If you don't like it, any of Bodi's workouts will work well and like he said, don't **** with the program layouts...

    WEEK 1:
    SUN - WORKOUT A (Squat, Bench, Row)
    WED - WORKOUT B (Deadlift, Weighted Chins, Weighted Dips)
    FRI - WORKOUT A (Squat, Bench, Row)

    WEEK 2:
    SUN - WORKOUT B (Deadlift, Weighted Chins, Weighted Dips)
    WED - WORKOUT A (Squat, Bench, Row)
    FRI - WORKOUT B (Deadlift, Weighted Chins, Weighted Dips)

    REPEAT.
     
  15. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    ..I think sparring more, and learning to breathe well would help you take the body shots more than putting on weight..

    Im pretty skinny, about 130, 5'6,.5, not really tall, but just a light build I guess.. I take body shots pretty well, get my wind knocked out when I get surprised though.