Gale Van Hoy addresses allegation's made by Malignaggi.

they should do something with him for sure. after no contest for bradley-campbell there is a little hope...

 

I guess paulies punches were too fast for him to see. Combos and jabs. Since when is a fight scored on power? Juans aggression was clearly not effective. Non effective aggression is all juan had. Clean punching, ring generalship, and defense clearly went to malignaggi. Maybe he is getting too old to judge a fight. My 5 year old cousin had malignaggi winning 7 rounds to 5. SUSPEND THIS WISEASS!

 

lay off the drugs and put your glasses on.

 

Actually Malignaggi can control things such as power......

.....Malignaggi boxed and jabbed alot while on his toes and on the move.....in the instances where he planted his feet to punch and do so with some leverage, he was effective. Those are the rounds I gave Malignaggi.

Btw, I had Diaz winning by a point.


When I judge effectiveness in a fighters punches, I dont much look to see if a fighter is doing real damage to a fighter as much as I look if the deliverer of the punches has his feet planted and is aiming to do damage with the shots he's throwing.
Even if a fighter does'nt have concussive punching power, almost every fighter that plants his feet to the canvas and lands a punch, has the ability to make the other respect and make the movements not to get hit.

 

This, except I had a draw.

Your punching power does not necessarily factor into to scoring of a punch.

Paulie flicks alot, ton of arm punches and swatting jabs. Those are not powerful jabs, they are weak touches and I just couldn't score many of them all that highly.

Diaz may not have concussive power, but when he torques his whole body through a hook and it snaps the foes head clean around, it doesnt matter if it didnt hurt the opposing boxer. Thats a huge scoring shot.

Paulies nagging jab nabbed him six rounds, in my view. He didn't do a very good job in 6 others of preventing Diaz from landing the better shots by a wide margin. I didn't find this fight particularly hard to score.

All the above said, 118-110 is ludicrous. Absolutely criminal. But Im not gonna shout corruption when the local kid wins a close fight. Paulie got a local decision against Ngoudjo himself.

And to those saying he needs to provide round by round accountability, it would be easier for him to justify his scorecard this way. All he has to say is "I saw Diaz's effective aggressiveness and power punching win this round" 10 times. And no real judge or athletic body could say **** about it, or they'd risk getting there **** sued because a boxing card is called an "objectively scored judgement."

Boxing isn't on the level. And we're not gonna change it by getting righteous. We hurt things just as, if not worse, than corrupt judges when we scream robbery 3 times a month. Fighters can't get credit for close wins anymore, which makes fan followings extremely hard to build.

 

Excuses, excuses, excuses ... there is no way you could score that fight 118-110.

 

All exellent points. Had Diaz won by the narrowest of margins on all scorecards and not just the one judges 115-113 score, I dont think there would have been alot written of Malagnaggi getting robbed.
The fight merited within the range of a one or two point victory either way, so absolutely, 118-110 was ridiculous.

 

i have watched it 4 times now....

the live version i had it 116-112

the second time, i had it 117-111, i was being very liberal and giving all the close rounds to malignaggi....

the third time i decided to be strict and give close rounds to diaz and had it 115-113 paulie....the more and more i watch the 12th i tend to lean to a malignaggi round

I just watched it for a 4th time, an hour ago, and scored it 117-111 paulie

malignaggi rounds 1,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12...the most "iffy" rounds are 5 and 12.....so its a clear paulie win.....best diaz result is a draw, i could see probable.......but 115-113 diaz is bull****, but that is IMO....

 

117-111 Malignaggi is just as ridiculous as the 118-110 score for Diaz.

Keep on rewatching it, to see if you can get just as ******ed as the 118-110 score rendered to Diaz.

 

I actually agree with Van Hoy... it's all about being effective. If you have no power whatsoever, then you'd better completely outclass the other guy and make him look silly. This isn't amateur boxing, it's not supposed to be about how many times you touch him with your gloves, it's about putting some hurt on the other guy. Paulie can't do that.

 

but neither can diaz. i'd rather hit the guy and not hurt him much, than not hit the guy AT ALL and not hurt him. diaz needed to land a punch to be effective: he couldn't. at least paulie hit him with something.

 

Diaz was landing shots. Not as many, but they were definitely better shots. Diaz doesn't have a ton of power but he CAN get you out of there. I think a fighter with a good chin could just step to Paulie with his hands at his waist and take whatever he can give.

 

Has Van Hoy published his full rd-x-rd scorecard?

 

i definitely agree that paulie has zero power and diaz did take what he was giving. i think the balance has to be made between number of shots and power. for me, diaz wasn't hitting nearly hard enough with his shots to balance against paulie's combinations, movement and ring generalship

 

Fair enough. I hate to penalize a fighter so badly just because he has no power, but it's just how I feel. If you can't hurt the other guy, you can't win.