Gamblers only... this boxing weekend

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by nickfoxx, Jun 4, 2008.


  1. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    Here are the lines from a well-known site... comments? where is the value?

    i like quintana and lopez as live dogs (+140 and +150 respectively)
    i also like the over in the quintana-williams rematch

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    ngoudjo -285 m'baye +225 over 9' -360 under 9' +280

    ponce de leon -180 lopez +150 over 10' -150 under 10' +110

    pavlik -2000 lockett +1000 over 6' -110 under 6' -130

    forrest -500 mora +300 over 10' -175 under 10' +135

    williams -170 quintana +140 over 10' -160 under 10' +120
     
  2. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    A lot of my money is riding on JuanMa.....but yes your right Quintana is a great "value bet" also. Otherwise I like the under rounds for Pavlik/Lockett; I think its going to be a blowout. I also think there is some good value on the Mora/Forrest under; I don't think Mora can hang in there for over 10 rounds (and its +130 on top of it).
     
  3. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    btw i'm trying to figure out the angle i'm missing on the quintana-williams rematch... i've rewatched the first fight at least 3 or 4 times now, and i can't see why this fight isn't pick'em or with a slight lean toward quintana (i had quintana winning 7-5 or 8-4)... granted lederman had williams winning 7-5 but i think it was pretty clear quintana won the fight (even from the perspective of lampley, kellerman and lewis who started the fight saying how dangerous and avoided a fighter williams was)

    the last time i felt like i missed an angle was in the hopkins-calzaghe fight where i took the dog and then realized as the fight was progressing that a mega-fight between calzaghe and roy jones in cardiff was at stake
     
  4. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Yeh but the problem with betting on Quintana is that I could see a robbery coming. Everyone knows that Williams had the hype behind him going into that fight, but theres just no way a person in their right mind could score the first fight for him. My problem is that if the rematch ends up close I can damn near guarentee it will go to Williams
     
  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    The worst bet is to bet on Pavlik straight up

    The best is Forrest/Mora under 10
     
  6. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    I put some dough on Juanma Lopez & Carlos Quintana.
    If both win i make a quite nice little profit.:yep

    Got some money on Ricardo Torres against Kendall Holt in early July, as the opening odds in Australia were very good.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm riding on JuanMa and Quintana this weekend but not big money

    also i placed my bets a while ago and got better odds than those.
     
  8. TFFP

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    Lopez is an extremely good bet, that is where I'm looking.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    How do American odds work - I assume a + guy is against, whilst a - guy is odds on?

    Or is it not that simple?

    Quintana PTS Williams
    Pavlik TKO Lockett
    Forrest TKO Mora
    Lopez PTS Ponce De Leon
     
  10. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Say a fighter is -130, that means you would have to bet 130 dollars to make 100 dollars...it other words, he's the favorite. On the flipside, if the fighter is +1000 it means if you bet 100 and he wins you win 1000. I think of the +1000 at 10 to 1 odds, easier to explain to people that way, in a sense. Hope that helps
     
  11. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hate to sem-hijack the thread, but can someone explain to me the deal with online betting? Is it legal, or do the laws vary from state to state, and which sites are best to use? Right now I have a $100 bet with a poster from another board on Quintana-Williams. With Quintana being the underdog, I'd like to have money on him at a site where I can take advantage of the odds.
     
  12. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is "illegal" to bet in America online, but a number of websites still take action. So far, to my knowledge, nobody has ever been arrested in America for gambling online, at least not for that soul purpose. People have been arrested for something else and had that thrown on top of it however. I gamble online everyday and I know of thousands other who make their living doing it. As long as you pay your taxes, you're fine.

    This is not trying to be a smart ass answer, but the best site to use is the site that will give you the best odds, lol. Some of the bigger ones in America or Bodoglife.com and Thegreek.com. Between those two The Greek usually has better lines. There is a Sports Book Review website (just google those words) that gives you independent ratings on every website and says if it caters to americans or not.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Ah, so -130 is basically 10/13, whereas +500 is 5/1?
     
  14. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay, cool man. Thanks for breaking it down it for me. I'ma look right into it now. :good

    Oh, and when I asked which site is the best to use, I was meaning as far as reputation. I know I've seen posters on boards complain about certain sites taking longer to pay out than others. But yeah, if you're getting better odds on one site than the other, I guess it's worth the wait in the long run.
     
  15. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily the best site for boxing, but definitely the most diverse in terms of proposition bets, is 5dimes.com. As far as I know, it's still accepting deposits from U.S. customers.

    Nobody is going to bust you for online gambling unless you start making regular offshore wire deposits in the four digit range into your checking account. Obviously hitting a site while on a work computer probably isn't a great idea either.

    Seriously, is ANYONE betting DPDL this weekend?