Gamboa Vs Guerro

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tays001, May 27, 2008.


  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think otherwise....here is my reasoning.....Gam is a very good technican, he's got great reflexes. His offense is not up to par with his offensive game.

    Guerro Has power, he is very accurate and he is seasoned enough to stay calm in situations that are necessarily going his way. I'm sure Gam would make a very good showing in the initial rounds until range began to be cut down by the jab and body shots eliminating space that Gam is so good at controling against lesser foes.

    When in close they will surely trade and with hands down and chin up by Gamboa a short right or crisp left lands and ends the night. By all means I do feel strongly about the kids potential but he's human and should be expected to do extraordinary things this early on.

    I expect EXTRAORDINARY preformances a few yrs down the line agaisnt the best, as of now....he needs to progressively step up.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That could be.....But in a lot of his fights the hands are down. He's supremely confident that's for sure. Which could be his problem.
     
  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Is t really true that Gamboa has 425+ amatuer fights or just another fairy tale spin? From the records, he started amateur fighting in 1999 (1 fight, so actually he started in 2000) until he turned professional in 2007. In a span of 6 years, if he had fought >400 times, that is about 50-70 fights per year (amazing considering that there are only few calendar dates in sanctioned amateur boxing) yet his cuban record only shows between 10-15 fights per year as expected in the amateurs.

    By the way, here is his amteur records:

    http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/gamboa.html

    Comparing to his fellow cuban fighter casamayor, his amateur resume is less than stellar than that of joel.

    By the way, who among the three defectors impress you most? Gamboa, Odlanier Solis,or Yan Bartelemi? These three defected together from their training camp in Venezuela. Based ontheir mteyr resumes, Bartelemi and Solis are equally impressive.
     
  4. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    Gamboa has said himself he has had about 425 amateur fights. That geocities link does not include all the fights he had as a child aswell as one-off fights (not apart of tournaments).

    Gamboa has impressed me the most out of the 3 defectors, followed by Solis then Barthelemy. I can see Gamboa and Solis going far in the pro game, aslong as some adjustments are made to each (Hands up for Gamboa/Weight for Solis).

    Barthelemy on the otherhard probably won't go that far, he's featherfisted and his style is suited for the amateurs. It's also quite apparent if you've seen his amateur fights that he's faded badly since earlier in his career.
     
  5. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Do you count those fight that he had as a child because probably all of them are sparring matches or against child boxers also. Besides the record I gave even if multipied 3 times would still not have 400 fights. Even in AIBA sanctioned fights, fighters do not fight twice in a day. If the count is 50-70 fights per year, then he should be fighting every 5 days without letout, which seem incredulous because that leaves you without time to train or travel.

    Looking at Bartelemi's record (I havenot seen him fight), he is more impressive during the end of his amateur career than Gamboa with lesser losses (a gold medal winner in 2004 olymic too). He may be featherfisted but sometimes you do not need to be a KO artist to be sccessful, ala Ivan Calderon. This kid had only 6 professional fights all win via decision.

    What is amazing with Cuban amateur boxing is that Gamboa, Solis,and Barteemi were not actually the creamest of the crop. I remember Felix Svon, 3 time olympic heavyweight champion and retired at age 33 in amateurs, and Stevensons, a 3 time olympic champ too.Had thaey gone professional, they could have become very rich.
     
  6. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know how Gamboa or Diamond are vastly overrated. Diamond did do enough in most observers eyes to beat Casamayor. Yes Campbell beat him due to him being overconfident, but then again, Campbell is a top 2 130 pounder so no shame losing to him.

    As with Gamboa, he just dominated a solid top-15 guy (who had just stopped Mike Anchondo) with ease, minus a flash KD in only his 10th fight!